An overwhelming majority of 86% of respondents, including 79% of coalition supporters, said the surprise attack from Gaza is a failure of the country’s leadership.
Netanyahu’s response: “Why are 86% of Israelis anti-Semitic?”
Tankies: of course the western media would never cover criticism of Israel.
this is a good one for. a meme.
Hamas existing is the Israeli government’s fault
And how do you figure that? Israel withdrew from Gaza while it was still under the PA as an attempt to work at peace. The plan was to do the same in the west bank next. Plan goes through. Hamas was an offshoot of the Muslim brotherhood without any political authority up to that point. Prior it was formed because they were against any peace accords that were occuring at the time. But after Israel withdrew, they almost immediately had an election in which Hamas was given power. And they stuck to their promise of continuing to use violence in order to obtain a state instead of working as part of the peace process. This is when the blockade began.
So are you just saying that due to the fact that Israel exists that Hamas exists? Even that is probably not true. The Muslim brotherhood has a long history prior to Hamas in that region. It is highly likely that even if the whole place had become the state of Palestine, then the same people would do the same shit as they did in Egypt.
So how is it that Hamas existing is the fault of Israel?
Hamas is fueled by the trauma of orphans and widows.
Perhaps they are further fueled by orphans and widows. But that doesn’t mean they exist due to Israel. The Muslim brotherhood has offshoots in multiple countries in the region and has existed since 1928.
So how is it Hamas, an offshoot of the Muslim brotherhood, existing is the fault of Israel? You’d have a much more sound argument blaming the British. Whose control of Egypt of Mandate Palestine led to a lot of this shit. What you haven’t done is made any effort to support your hyperbolic claim.
More than one thing can be blamed.
Israel fed Hamas, that’s still their fault and they are to blame.
By your argument only the men who established slavery first are to blame, not the ones who continue or exacerbate it which Israel has done both of
You said it exists because of Israel. That is just untrue. Has Israel done things that exacerbated the problem? Definitely. But that is miles away from what you’re saying. And worse for what you’re implying.
it exists because Israel sustains it what you’re saying is ignorant
Again, I’ve pointed out that the parent organization has existed since 1928 and has branches in multiple countries of the region. Not to mention the ongoing support from Lebanon and Iran for Hamas in particular. So even if Israel ceased to exist Hamas is likely to exist. Even if Israel never existed, whatever group was in control of that area, would still likely be dealing with an offshoot of the Muslim brotherhood.
I actually know the history of the organization. Yet I am ignorant. I feel like I’m probably correcting someone who has likely never lived in a world with the twin towers.
I answered you. Why did you not respond?
I wonder if they think it’s just the intelligence failure, or the enabling and supporting of Hamas that they did in order to sabotage the two state solution by pitting them against Fatah and the PA?
Both. People would do well to read Hareetz, Israel’s newspaper of record, which is also available in English.
It’s hard to accuse it of being anti-semitic. Reading Israeli perspectives, also demolishes the argument that all Israelis don’t care about Palestinian suffering or unconditionally support what comes next.
These are some of the opinion pieces they have on their site now:
This:
Or this:
Thank you for sharing, it is appreciated
I’m curious, do they have an arabic language edition too? I feel like that could be a good bridge building tool if so.
It can’t just be an intelligence failure to have lower security on the Gaza border on the 50th anniversary - down to the same holy day - of the last time Palestinian forces attacked Israel.
%100 was a setup. They learned from the USA, know about the attack, let it happen, and then use it as political ammo to get the war you want.
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He’s been so focused on destroying their supreme court and fighting his own people he forgot about the enemy at his gates
he didnt forget about the enemy at his gates, hes been extremely busy making said enemy bigger and angrier
He was so quick to set up his “Unity” government, too.