word processor users when they try vim (me):
When $EDITOR is vim, but I expected anything else:
opens file, with small text on the top; text begins changing; text duplicates in size, then triples; text returns to original size; text increases in size to fit several screens…
Then my great reflexes kick on and I notice something wrong :)
Do you prefer when EDITOR is set to emacs?
Personally, yes. But the default being nano is very sensible.
The default should be mcedit. Much more usable than nano
First few time I opened vim (will neovim) I failed to see how to enter a command, and closed the window to get out of it
Explain pls for us vimless noobs
Instead of using the arrow keys most vi & him users navigate the cursor around the doc by using letter keys. I do it so subcociously now I am not sure which direction is the
jwhen I use my phone.I’m one of the noobs. You use letter keys to navigate around text?
Vim has several modes. INSERT mode let’s you write text, NORMAL mode let’s you navigate (with h,j,k,l and others) and perform operations on the text with your keyboard, like “dw” to Delete Word or “A” to enter insert mode at the end of the line.
You can use arrow keys to navigate in insert mode. However I just press escape, which changes to normal, navigate to where I want to, then change to insert mode.
I may seem like this makes simple navigation complex, and it kinda does. But complex navigation becomes easier.
Vi (and vim and neovim)'s primary concern is viewing and editing code, writing is secondary (although it’s still an excellent experience)
Oh, I did not know of ‘A’ before. Hopefully I can train myself to use it.
I use ‘O’ the most. It inserts a newline at the end of the line and starts Insert Mode after the newline.
Awesome. After many years of vim-use I learned about CTRL+n as well. A game changer.
And while we’re at it, I also installed vim-nox to be able to use vim-snippets with utilsnips to TAB for even more joy of programming with vim. [=
Yes, (neo)vi(m) has different modes, in
normalmode the characters are shortcuts, hjkl is used for navigation. However other methods are prefered, w, e, b - jumping words, f,t - jumping to a specific character etc. Its way faster. Also it can be combinedd2w(d)eletes the next (2) (w)ord. Or more advanceddi"(d)eletes the text (i)nside the “…”Insertmode is what you except: it writes what you type. Can be accessed by i - (i)nsert before a - (a)append after. Going back to normal mode is ESC (or many configure tab)
But keyboards have arrow keys now?
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20Gwwbcwkurva<ESC>:wq
It’s been so long since I worked on a machine where I couldn’t use the cursor keys in vi, I don’t think I’d even be able to anymore.
I only understand this reference because I worked for a company at one point that had a large number of NeXT and Solaris hosts that only had vi installed with letter key navigation, so my muscle memory does not use arrow keys.
Coders use word docs?
I’m not a programmer but I still open up notepad and write in markdown.
It’s just faster.
the collab feature of google docs is nice
Here’s what my terminal usually looks like
@>vim srv/txt.txt Writes a bunch of lines of code/words/docker containers. [ESC] :sq Can’t edit file without sudo :q! @>sudo vim srv/txt.txt 🥹
ITT: People who don’t use vim and insist we have arrow keys now so don’t need hjkl anymore.
When I start a new roguelike:
Activate [j]ump ability, view [l]og, no item underfoot to mark for [k]eeping, [h]ide.
ting in vim I sometimes still forget I start in normal mode.
And they lived happier ever after.
THE END :wq!
jjjjjjjjjjj? Nah fam,11j.Hmmm, j is not working better try k some… And multiple esc
<ESC><ESC><ESC><ESC>ujj<ESC>u<ESC>v0wsffs<C-z><C-s><A-F4><A-enter>vim pres.typ...I use eMacs btw
Erm. This would be vi? vim has arrow key support.
Implying that vim users use arrows instead of hjkl? Blasphemy!
I do :p and I use vim a lot.
