• Rooty@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    So a poorly made electric vehicle by one manufacturer means that the entire field is non-viable?

    EDIT: Lmao, check out this guy’s posts, every single comment is shitting on battery EVs and shilling hydrogen vehicles. I don’t know how much you’re being paid to shill for the fossil fuel industry, but I hope it’s enough.

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      Lmao, check out this guy’s posts, every single comment is shitting on battery EVs and shilling hydrogen vehicles. I don’t know how much you’re being paid to shill for the fossil fuel industry, but I hope it’s enough.

      How many people are shilling for the BEV industry or Tesla? It is the biggest greenwashing scam of our time. Someone has to say something. You have reality reversed. It’s the pro-BEV people that are shills.

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      All BEVs from everyone will have the same issues.

      EDIT: Lying to yourself will not change reality. A BEV will never be a low-resource type of vehicles. It is a matter of when, not if, it falls apart as an idea.

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        Lying to yourself will not change reality. A cellphone will never be a low-resource type of communication. It is a matter of when, not if, it falls apart as an idea.

        Lying to yourself will not change reality. A personal computer will never be a low-resource type of device. It is a matter of when, not if, it falls apart as an idea.

        That is you, that is how deranged you sound.

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          A cellphone is not a car. Nor is a personal computer.

          A BEV has fundamental problems that cannot be solved. It’s worth noting that they are an older idea than combustion cars. It is in many ways, totally obsolete.

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            11 months ago

            Ok I stand corrected, you definitely are deranged or you are literally a paid shill of Exxon, which in this case would be the same thing.

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              So when Joe Biden announces a huge pro-hydrogen program, is he a paid shill of Exxon?

              Honestly, some of you guys are so deluded, it goes beyond projecting. You guys are seriously brainwashed by Musk. Some of you will sell out the entirety of the climate change movement if it means validation by a Fascist.

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                Lmao, we KNOW he is. American politics have extreme fossil lobbyists attached to them

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                  11 months ago

                  Then explain the vast number of European politicians also supporting expansion of hydrogen? Are they all part of the fossil fuel lobby?

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                    Yes.

                    The fossil fuel industry has enormous pockets. And politicians aren’t known to understand the technology they are peddling.

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                lol we hate Musk. We dont like Teslas shitty cars. We do like EVs since they keep the air pollution outside of big cities and if used with renewable energies they are the best alternative to fossil fuel car travel we have.

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                    11 months ago

                    The problem with FCEVs right now is cost.

                    First of all, we already have good electric distribution infrastructure, but don’t have an industrially-sized hydrogen distribution infrastructure. It’s way easier to install a new charging site than a new hydrogen refueling site. Building hydrogen out will be expensive, unless you’re talking about vehicles with a centralized depot, like busses or ferries.

                    Second, fuel cells aren’t really that efficient right now, and neither is electrolysis. Due to losses at each step, 100 miles worth of green hydrogen is way, way more expensive than 100 miles worth of electricity.

                    With more research, that could change. But for now, there’s a reason you don’t see many FCEVs.

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            Funny, cause an combustion car has a lot bigger issues that can not be fixed and need to be addressed right now.

            Which shares the same problems with hydrogen cars, btw.

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              FCEVs don’t have the problem of combustion cars. It is the natural follow-up to them.