• echo64@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    This is a lot of exciting words to say “instead of digging up the effectively limitless amount of rock under our feet we can go into space to do it in the least efficient and most expensive way”

    It’s very cool, but I would rather we spend our time and resources on more pressing things, given we have the rocks right here.

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      11 months ago

      I would agree if mining the rocks on earth didn’t cause ecological collapses and kill off animals and displace indigenous and exploit underprivileged ethnic classes in post colonial hellholes

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        11 months ago

        I’m sure mining in space will have its own problems but at least it can’t kill our biosphere

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          11 months ago

          There’s been studies that have found metal particles in the atmosphere, so anything entering and exiting are seemingly shedding particles.

          So it’s likely to cause issues down the road unfortunately.

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      11 months ago

      Rocks ≠ ore. There are numerous materials (e.g. lithium) for the total known deposits on Earth won’t cover more than a few decades’ worth of projected demand, and even then, the mining process is an environmental disaster. Asteroid mining is a long-term project that will require huge advances in multiple fields, but it addresses a real need.

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        11 months ago

        known deposits. There’s functionally endless amounts of all elements we need on earth. And there is zero need to go mine asteroids at a truely astronomical cost of efficiency.

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          11 months ago

          I said mostly the same thing as you in (my own words) elsewhere inside this post. Most people don’t want to see this reality.

          So, maybe this is a business opportunity : to attract investment and then face investors with hard facts. Of course we write the contract so that, after this, we just keep their stupid money.

          Edit : Oops ! I just read your other comment :

          you’ll also see (…) investment scams

          And so I realize you were thinking along these lines already. (although my statement was much more cynical)

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      11 months ago

      If it’s truly the “least efficient and most expensive way” of mining then you have no reason to be the slightest bit worried, it won’t get done in that case. Obviously.

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        11 months ago

        This is true, but you’ll also see a lot of investment scams by internet famous people, like funding a space company on the lies of Mars colonies

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          11 months ago

          SpaceX is a private company, it’s not taking investment from internet people.

          Furthermore, its Mars goals are IMO the least revolutionary part of what the Starship program is working toward.

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            11 months ago

            Investment scams from internet people. And I said scam like promising Mars colonization. I did not use the term revolutionary. Scam.

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      11 months ago

      I can imagine a sort of a conveyor belt made of miniature cargo vessel with one robotized mining station at one end, cutting away an asteroid piece by piece, and a cargo dock at the Earth side.

      With enough cargo vessels deployed, let’s say one would arrive at each end everyother day, the moment the conveyor belt was full, the mining operation would be swift.

      Assuming a global deal between nations could be struck to have a refinery or at least a cargo dock placed on the moon, to organize large cargos to come to Earth at programmed intervals, it could prove to be a very interesting endeavour.

      Raw matterials price could drop, given the sheer available volume.

      At least it sounds like a diferent sci-fi plot