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    Makes sense, Reddit feels like a shell of it’s former self.

    After the apicalypse many subs seems to have died, also the new UI that has been pushed for a decade or so, seems to promote consumption of content and discourage creation of content, further reducing new content.

    Reddit has been many, many times by AI companies, why keep scanning if the content stays 98% the same, with most new content being of mostly lower quality, simply due to people posting AI shit.

    This was a very predictable outcome.

    As soon as Reddit’s history got scanned by AI models, it lost 98% of it’s future value.

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      Don’t forget that you can’t use VPN now, use the web version on mobile, and most accounts gets banned as soon as they are created by the automod.

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        You also cannot view it without being logged in now. Which gets a groan from everyone in chat when a friend shares a Reddit link.

        I have no clue why they decided chasing off users and being less useful was somehow going to help them. Particularly when they were the place to go for huge segments of the population.

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          You can without being logged in, but not old reddit. If you’re getting the “join the most alive place on the net” (lol) popup, ublock has optional anti-annoyance filters that fix it.

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              Yeeeh. There’s a “oh you gotta log in” pop up on “new” reddit now, and old reddit makes you log in. Site’s gone to shit

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                  Nahhh they’re going full Pinterest “you have to log in to see ANYTHING!” D:

                  For now, you can still use nü-reddit without an account.

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        Just within the last week or so old.reddit.com was effectively disabled and stopped working. (I think it might work if you log in, but i quit doing that 3 years ago). It was a nice resource and it’s said that it’s such a shell of what it was. Right when the internet is really needing human voices too

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          They are only doing one segment of users at a time and I’m guessing their metrics are telling them 90% of those users don’t play ball and just stop visiting. I’m guessing they might go back on it in a bit.

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      Never forget that they killed the API for a mere $60M AI deal.

      Like, if spez apologized and restored API access, and made an effort to kick fascists off the platform, I might consider going back. But as is, I will watch with glee as he fucks over everyone stupid enough to buy his IPO.

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        Besides apologizing and changing course, spez would need to leave before I considered going back. The way he behaved during the API BS ended my capacity to trust him in any way. Reddit as an organization, maybe they can turn things around and return to their purported values, but spez is not an honest person and will do or say anything if it serves his own interests.

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        60M USD is insanely cheap for that data, remember, it was categorized and structured into threads and subthreads in specific categories, not to mention all different languages already being mostly sorted and ready for consumption.

        They could probably have got a few hundred million USD for it if they held out longer.

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        Most of the people who bought during the IPO probably already cashed out.

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      I swear Reddit started changing as soon as Trump won. I think reddit did such a great job of exposing Republican lies and grifts that some rich ass hole just said we will express interest in investing if you start censoring your content and now here we are

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        trump the 1st time actually. thats when they started banning heavily, also the same time russia realized reddit was ripe for stoking division/infighting. remember all those subs that were considered illicit by the gop.

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          The r/AskRedit thread that got me banned permanently was asking how people thought the Trump presidency would end. You could tell by the amount of “Post deleted by user” and “post removed by reddit” that the general consensus was that eventually someone would hit the bullseye and finally ventilate this sack of shit’s skull. I observed that it’s telling that they are so against even discussing threats of violence, that it makes the mods complicit in the crimes of the regime. Fun fact/spoiler alert: The mods did not like getting called out like that.

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            I don’t get how they hate violence when I was last there it was full of drone videos blowing bits of Russians I to the air.

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              because the admin are secretly right-wing sycophants or Neoliberals who think every political problem can be solved by “talking out our differences to find a middle ground.”

              I’m no tankie, and I do always hope that a peaceful solution can be found, truly I do, but the cold fact is that the most effective cure to actual, demonstrable fascism is BULLETS. Preferably “early and often.

              But this is veering into politics so back to discussing reddit

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            Along with chapotraphouse but the Donald did quite a bit of damage. I swear the Donald was pushed as a honeypot to enrage users who hate the fucking right to get them to engage and then get banned

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              Frankly I’m surprised they didn’t ban a ton of users, myself included, when they nuked CTH.

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                I didn’t understand CTH so I never joined it. The only reason I knew of it was due to the dollop podcast and they don’t even reference that much. I think I just saw it mentioned in a comment

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                  Oh I never listened to the podcast, it was mostly a refuge for people who got banned from LateStageCapitalism for whatever garbage reasons. (In my case, it was suggesting that just because North Korea was at odds with the Capitalist West didn’t mean we had to take their propaganda at face value.) So it was a place where non-tankie leftists accumulated. Mostly meme trash and simmering resentment.

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      Was always going to happen.

      The most valuable data is always going to be on open platforms that prioritize ease of use, because that’s where people will go. But then the company starts looking at all that data and how much it’s worth.

      Before they can charge people for it, they have to make sure no one can get it for free. But in doing so chase off the users who were making that content.

      Leaving them with a locked down worthless ecosystem.

      Nothing is meant to last forever tho, and reddit won’t be the last.

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          The Gaia economy shitshow is absolutely crazy. I had quit before it really fell apart but even in like 2006 it was clear the market was unhealthy.

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            I actually walked away when i got big into Minecraft and mostly switched to reddit because the Minecraft community is truly gargantuan over there. Infact, it’s one of Reddit’s main pillars of user engagement and the de facto off game community connection. I rewatched that video and the whole time I was going “Reddit is doing the same thing! Reddit is making the same mistakes! HOLY SHIT HISTORY IS REPEATING!!” When the owners of any social media platform stops listening to their user base, or worse, thinks they know what’s “better” for them, it’s the beginning of the end. It’s like all those Celebrities that start resenting their fans or think they (the fans) OWE them (the celebrity).

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        I wonder? Just before I was banned, I used a third party app to scrap 14 years of my data and delete it all. Not long after that I was banned for some truly innocuous post.

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        Wait what did they do to the NSFW subs? They were still active when I was banned a few years ago

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          they removed the r/nsfwrandom search string, and banned hundreds of the NSFW subreddits due to “lack of moderation.” You can still go to many of them, (that remain) but you have to actively punch the subreddit into your address bar, and then you can only link to other related subreddits through the Subreddits’ own link list (which is only up to date if you’re lucky). Searching for them is still possible but access is a crapshoot due to the aforementioned subreddit bans.

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            i heard many of them got purged from another forum. some people make it a business to push or promote thier content/agency on these subs. funny how reddit target these people and not the propaganda bots.