Palestinians said they had received renewed warnings from Israel's military to move from north Gaza to the south of the strip, with the added warning that they could be identified as sympathisers with a "terrorist organisation" if they stayed put.
In a republic, representatives in power are elected by the general populace. Their decisions represent the will of the citizenry.
Hamas was freely elected by the people of Gaza in 2006. Their actions did and continue to represent the will of the citizenry. If they didn’t, they would not still be in positions of elected authority.
So, in a war of aggression by a democratic state, voting age adults are just as responsible for the actions of their country as the combatants they indirectly sent to harm others.
Gazan adults are either fighting Hamas, or they support Hamas. And I haven’t read ANYTHING about Gazans against Hamas taking up arms to free their country from that elected group.
I AM responsible. This is how democracy works. You are responsible for your own governance. Why don’t you think for yourself? You can’t vote for your government to kill others, and take zero responsibility.
Nope, just because I’m part of a wide, very diluted group collectively responsible doesn’t mean I think I am wrong. I am happy for voting representatives into power who used military force against Al-Qaida and ISIS. Fuck them.
Germans voted for the Nazi party to take power. And guess what? Germans supported that party, even after that party they chose to put into power suspended elections. If you elect a government that suspends elections, you’re still responsible for electing that government. You put them there: you and your fellow citizens gave consent.
Yes famously every single german citizen unanimously supported the nazi party from 1933 to 1945.
Have you ever learned about how the Nazis came into power? The cycle that Hitler became Chancellor, they won only 37% of the vote. Before that, it was a meager 18%. One election of 37% was enough for emergency powers to be seized, the reichstag to be burned, and quite simply the ball to be put in motion. I’m sure you would’ve been first in line to protest their actions beyond that point, but it certainly would’ve been quite the challenge to change the course after that point.
If you’re cool damning an entire population off the decision of 37%(of the population that voted), then I guess your reasoning stands.
Funny that you mention it, but do you know why Germans voted for the Nazis, because they were desperate and put into a corner, after the end of the WWI and the Versailles treaty they were so bad economically that people were desperate, and guess what, desperate people choose desperate solutions. So in a way, Hamas is in power thanks to the Israelian policies.
Do you truly believe that if those people were in peace and living comfortably Hamas would have been elected in the first place?
Governments aren’t always elected with the support of a majority of voters, or even a plurality.
A government does not represent the will of the voters who weren’t on the winning side of the last election
A government often doesn’t represent the will of the voters on the winning side either.
People vote based on what candidates say they’re going to do, and they have next to no control over what their leaders actually do after they’re elected.
Sounds like you don’t understand those very basic facts. Your opinions are therefore not worth listening to.
Unfortunately, you don’t understand the basics of living in a society.
Please stop being arrogant and don’t assume you have an opinion worth listening to.
Due to the Israeli blockade of goods and travel, these people were happy if they can survive the day to day. let alone fight a regime that even the 4th strongest army in the world is failing to control. But sure, it’s their own fault.
Neo-Nazis are actually quite pro-Hamas, their hatred of Jews and queers exceeds their hatred of muslims. You can verify this yourself by visiting pol or any other neo-nazi site.
Name calling. And all of the sudden you’re right!
But hey, you forgot “bigot” from your answer, we all know you’re not truly right until you call me a bigot!
In a republic, representatives in power are elected by the general populace. Their decisions represent the will of the citizenry.
Hamas was freely elected by the people of Gaza in 2006. Their actions did and continue to represent the will of the citizenry. If they didn’t, they would not still be in positions of elected authority.
So, in a war of aggression by a democratic state, voting age adults are just as responsible for the actions of their country as the combatants they indirectly sent to harm others.
Gazan adults are either fighting Hamas, or they support Hamas. And I haven’t read ANYTHING about Gazans against Hamas taking up arms to free their country from that elected group.
That means that you are personally liable for the 1 Million dead civilians from our unconstitutional war in the middle east.
Using this logic you are fair game for a terrorist attack, and would deserve it.
50% of the population was not born yet during the most recent election where Hamas gained power (16 years ago)
Stop parroting this bullshit and think for yourself
I AM responsible. This is how democracy works. You are responsible for your own governance. Why don’t you think for yourself? You can’t vote for your government to kill others, and take zero responsibility.
So edgy. Hand yourself over to Al-Qaeda or ISIS since you are responsible. I will buy your plane ticket for you.
Nope, just because I’m part of a wide, very diluted group collectively responsible doesn’t mean I think I am wrong. I am happy for voting representatives into power who used military force against Al-Qaida and ISIS. Fuck them.
No you are going to the Middle East, send me a DM so we can get the plane ticket purchased
Put your money where your mouth is coward
But America isn’t a democracy, it’s a republic.
And even then, people don’t vote on military decisions.
This is a super simple view of the conflict.
They elected them in 2006. So there hasn’t been an election in almost 20 years.
This is a stupid position to take imo.
Germans voted for the Nazi party to take power. And guess what? Germans supported that party, even after that party they chose to put into power suspended elections. If you elect a government that suspends elections, you’re still responsible for electing that government. You put them there: you and your fellow citizens gave consent.
Yes famously every single german citizen unanimously supported the nazi party from 1933 to 1945.
Have you ever learned about how the Nazis came into power? The cycle that Hitler became Chancellor, they won only 37% of the vote. Before that, it was a meager 18%. One election of 37% was enough for emergency powers to be seized, the reichstag to be burned, and quite simply the ball to be put in motion. I’m sure you would’ve been first in line to protest their actions beyond that point, but it certainly would’ve been quite the challenge to change the course after that point.
If you’re cool damning an entire population off the decision of 37%(of the population that voted), then I guess your reasoning stands.
Funny that you mention it, but do you know why Germans voted for the Nazis, because they were desperate and put into a corner, after the end of the WWI and the Versailles treaty they were so bad economically that people were desperate, and guess what, desperate people choose desperate solutions. So in a way, Hamas is in power thanks to the Israelian policies.
Do you truly believe that if those people were in peace and living comfortably Hamas would have been elected in the first place?
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This is just straight wrong in so many ways I’m afraid.
Are you 12?
Ya he’s giving off some real Libertarian/FrEe MaRkEt/whatevenistheageofconsent vibes
No, I am a voter. Do you know how government works? Are you 12?
There weren’t any elections since Hamas took control of Gaza, they have persecuted and expelled/killed all Fatah representatives.
Maybe before saying something try to educate yourself.
I’m someone who understands that:
Sounds like you don’t understand those very basic facts. Your opinions are therefore not worth listening to.
Unfortunately, you don’t understand the basics of living in a society. Please stop being arrogant and don’t assume you have an opinion worth listening to.
Due to the Israeli blockade of goods and travel, these people were happy if they can survive the day to day. let alone fight a regime that even the 4th strongest army in the world is failing to control. But sure, it’s their own fault.
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/18/1206897328/half-of-gazas-population-is-under-18-heres-what-that-means-for-the-conflict
50% of the population of Gaza is 15 or lower. The majority of the people there never voted for Hamas.
Hey, you cannot say that here! It doesn’t fit the general narrative. What are you thinking? /s
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why are you thinking that?
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No, they’re not.
Neo-Nazis are actually quite pro-Hamas, their hatred of Jews and queers exceeds their hatred of muslims. You can verify this yourself by visiting pol or any other neo-nazi site.
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😂
Name calling. And all of the sudden you’re right! But hey, you forgot “bigot” from your answer, we all know you’re not truly right until you call me a bigot!
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😂😂😂