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      Ukraine support for Israel preceed the invasion and Israel did nothing to help Ukraine in contrary voted against UN, resolution condrmning Russia aggression and have zero sanctions on it

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        Basically all of Europe and the US supported Israel in some fashion pre-invasion. Skip the middle man and invade Israel instead then.

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          It is wrong when Ukraine does it , it is bad when russia does it , it is bad when the usa does it , it is bad when the rest of europe does it, it is bad when china does not use it’s economical power to restrict israel . I do not advocate for attacking any middle man especially not Ukraine who is also experiencing a war of aggression on Ukraine

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      Does that matter to the people the UKR military kills in Iran and helps kill in Palestine?

      But no, the Ukranian people have not had a choice in anything since having their government surgically replaced in 2014, or for that matter since having their government illegally dissolved in 1991.

      My point with this specific post, as an olive branch to people who may not be familiar with the communist position, is not “Ukraine bad” so much as “This is what eventually happens to every American ‘ally’ no matter what promises have been made to the contrary, and other countries had best take notice”.

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      ahh, yes, what else could they do when they’re being invaded other than committing genocide. poor ukronazis!

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        OK. So they should let Russia run their tanks through their towns and take over? What’s the take here?

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          i dunno you could try and fight against the invasion or whatever cia fairy tale you tell yourself to believe you’re not a nazi yet without supporting a literal nazi state? oh yeah, the ukronazis are also fascist bastards so that’s what they want.

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            So they didn’t invade? You can call them Nazis all you like but let’s live in reality.

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                After they started a world war and killed millions. Ever heard of the Holocaust?

                Not really a comparison.

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                  Ever heard of the ethnic cleansing of the Donbas? The fact that the UKR regime’s attempt at a Holocaust was stopped at “only” a few thousand ethnic Russians does not make them magically not Nazis, nor does it change the perscription.

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                    It is nonetheless cometely different than the juatification against Nazi Germany you made.

                    And the fact that you are doubleing down on that bad comparision shows how your post has seen any seld reflection.

                    Again, comparing WW2 against the attack of russia agains ukrain.

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                    How many ethnic Russians have died in this war? I bet it’s more than a few thousand.

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                  Good, so we agree that simply being invaded does not suddenly put a government on the right side of history.

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                    There’s a bit of a difference between a punch to the face and a punch to the face in return. Or are we going to pretend these are the same thing?