• All Ice In Chains@lemmy.ml
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      Or, you know, not put mothers through the painful, dangerous, and potentially lethal ordeal known as pregnancy.

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        Ah yes, break the bonds that bind family and ultimately society together to “protect women”. It is only lethal in places with shitty medical car…okay I see where you are going with this.

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          break the bonds that bind family

          Nine months in utero counts for more than your first 18 years of life?

          I’ll need to break my adopted brother the terrible news

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            There is a lot that happens in utero. Sharing the mother’s immune system, learning the voice of the mother and people around them, not to mention the various hormonal changes that prepare the mother physically and psychologically to care for an infant.

            Pregnancy can be dangerous but we really need to be careful whenever we introduce new medical technology.

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            Sorry to break reality to you and him.

            Also, we are talking about an artificial womb so you wouldn’t have a mother.

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              Do you not realize that an artificial womb still uses a fertilized human egg? Like, genetically, there’s still two human parents.

              It’s not like someone is going to fuck a robot and get it pregnant.

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                Your mother gives birth to you. She doesn’t just donate genetic material. She carries you inside her for 9 months before pushing you out and holding you as you take your first breathe. This is the way it has been for millions of years.

                What people are proposing is breaking that human cycle. Eliminating the investment of time body and soul into the next generation. Pretending this wouldn’t have significant impacts on our society is farcical. Population could literally be controlled by whoever has the money.

                We would also likely end up in a Gattaca situation because who would want to spend the money on a defective baby. Crispr babies raised by the government or corporations doesn’t sound like a future I would look forward to.

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                    I am talking about the implications of creating humans unethically in ways that would upend society as we know it.

                    Denying our strong familial bounds due to pregnancy and raising our biological offspring is silly. I am not saying fatherhood isn’t real or that people can’t adopt.

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              If even a grain of what you said was true, people wouldn’t adopt. Birth doesn’t bind a family together. Love and work are what bind a family together.

              If it was like you said we wouldn’t have parents who starve their kids.

              You’re a yucky person.

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      Hopefully some bright mind will be able to merge this with the crushing machine and we can enter a new golden age of technology.