Yeah - until I see George W Bush hanging in The Hague, Americans should probably shut the fuck up about their advice to other countries on how to deal with war criminals.
nobody said everyone was American? Just that Americans shouldn’t be lecturing anyone about harboring war criminals, considering how Georgie is painting happily and Condie Rice is still advocating more bloodshed.
I would think that given your own leaders are gleefully committing war crimes, and in theory you have more power in your own country than you do in Russia, you would want to stop your own country from committing its never ending litany of war crimes. Which it has been doing for decades.
Because otherwise it seems your problem isn’t war crimes, but who does them.
Yeah, granted: the nation of America is imperialist, warmongering, and has bad government, and a good proportion of Americans are okay with that—but not all Americans.
Not all Americans.
Not all Russians.
and if, say, a German, Icelander, Irish person, Iranian, or a Palestinian says something stupid, I will call
wt:thon (þon) out on that regardless on how well behaved and/or victimized þons country is.
OK. So then you have to either say that America is not a democracy - it does not represent the views of its populace - or that the majority of Americans ARE just fine with their government that kills millions.
So imagine a German in 1943 denouncing the US for its horrible treatment of blacks and indigenous at the time and maybe the past 10 years earlier.
An American replies, “Shut the hell up! Your country is a Nazi dictatorship! You shouldn’t be lecturing anyone about the bad treatment of minorities and other peoples!”
“I’m not a Nazi, in the last 3 elections, I voted SPD.”
“It doesn’t matter, Hitler runs your country. He was elected because at heart you’re all Nazis!”
That’s exactly the point. Voting SPD (which, btw, made the mistakes that put the Nazis in power) doesn’t absolve you from the responsibilities of what your country does.
Either vote with your feet, or start doing more. Because the people you’re murdering need more than you just voting harder.
Yeah - until I see George W Bush hanging in The Hague, Americans should probably shut the fuck up about their advice to other countries on how to deal with war criminals.
Not all of us are American.
Many of us opposed Bush and Putin.
IIUC, Bush thought he could deal with Putin.
nobody said everyone was American? Just that Americans shouldn’t be lecturing anyone about harboring war criminals, considering how Georgie is painting happily and Condie Rice is still advocating more bloodshed.
So 330 million people should just shut up about Putin because they were born in a country that has bad leaders?
Also, FWIW, there might have been 2 assassination attempt on Trump; and many Americans, including politicians, freely denounce Trump.
I would think that given your own leaders are gleefully committing war crimes, and in theory you have more power in your own country than you do in Russia, you would want to stop your own country from committing its never ending litany of war crimes. Which it has been doing for decades.
Because otherwise it seems your problem isn’t war crimes, but who does them.
Yeah, granted: the nation of America is imperialist, warmongering, and has bad government, and a good proportion of Americans are okay with that—but not all Americans.
Not all Americans.
Not all Russians.
and if, say, a German, Icelander, Irish person, Iranian, or a Palestinian says something stupid, I will call wt:thon (þon) out on that regardless on how well behaved and/or victimized þons country is.
OK. So then you have to either say that America is not a democracy - it does not represent the views of its populace - or that the majority of Americans ARE just fine with their government that kills millions.
At a certain point, Americans are Good Germans.
I suppose yes.
So imagine a German in 1943 denouncing the US for its horrible treatment of blacks and indigenous at the time and maybe the past 10 years earlier.
An American replies, “Shut the hell up! Your country is a Nazi dictatorship! You shouldn’t be lecturing anyone about the bad treatment of minorities and other peoples!”
“I’m not a Nazi, in the last 3 elections, I voted SPD.”
“It doesn’t matter, Hitler runs your country. He was elected because at heart you’re all Nazis!”
That’s exactly the point. Voting SPD (which, btw, made the mistakes that put the Nazis in power) doesn’t absolve you from the responsibilities of what your country does.
Either vote with your feet, or start doing more. Because the people you’re murdering need more than you just voting harder.