Russian officials vowed on Wednesday that Ukraine won't be able to shut down Russian airspace after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky threatened a major escalation of drone attacks on Russian territory and said Russia's skies would no longer be safe for civilian aircraft. Ukraine's drones have
Two things could be true at once, both of you could be ignoramuses who are easily manipulated by western propagandists. But don’t take my word for it, here’s what The Telegraph of all outlets has to say on the subject https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2WsQiQ77Co
Sure. It could be. Heck even three things could be true at much. Maybe even three ignorami all easily manipulated by their propaganda de jour. And its not like I’m new to this little panty-bundle pet issue you choose to editorially moderate around. We all see you. We all see what you are doing and have been doing around this issue for years. Just like we see Jordan Lund for what they do. Or Ruud. Or squid.
The issue to me isn’t the disagreement: its your refusal to have it and to use your moderator powers to suppress conversations which you can’t actually engage in, in a public manner, and expect to convince people to come to your side. And what it does, the way its almost exclusive to one particular pet issue: it dramatically weakens your stance.
Any point you could possibly be making which might actually be convincing becomes basically meaningless because you can’t do it rhetorically. You choose to not allow for it. Just like Squid coudlnt defend zionism rhetorically, and so they abused the power of moderation; just like Jordan Lund and their defense of establishment poltiics. These are your peers. These are who you share a bench with when you choose to engage in this manner.
If your arguments were really good and convincing, you wouldn’t need to editorialize via moderation. When you do what you do, it says more about the weakness of your perspective than it does show any kind of strength.
So your issue is made up given that I don’t moderate this community. Gotcha.
yogthos is not a moderator bro
It says plenty about western propaganda and how libs refuse to even consider that the same people who lied about Cuba, Vietnam, Peru, Palestine, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, South Africa, Bahrain, Yemen, slavery, Thanksgiving, Columbus, Argentina, Hawaii, Philippines is certainly telling the truth about Russia and China.
If you have to silence people who disagree with you to make your point, your point is weak. Its not more complicated then that. And this very very very particular form of editorial moderation, is for all practical purposes only enlisted in defense of one particular nation.
If the defense was convincing, you’d never need to silence it’s critics. Why would you ever do that? You’d be silly. Why would you hide your arguments if they are so strong.
But we all know the truth. They aren’t strong arguments. Heck, by and large, they aren’t really even arguments. Its masking a legitimate critic of one bad actor with criticism of another bad actor. They’re independent things. Two things can be true. Two nations can be doing bad things.
Its what MAGA does to dissent in their spaces. Its what liberals do in theirs. No differences. Same goals at the end of the day, to be the hedgemon.
If you think you’ve got some strong arguments, argue against censorship so the discussions can be had. There really are no excuses for this kind of petty tyranny of the moderator at this point.
The same reason we censor bigotry. No matter how many convincing arguments are made against it, people will still let their bias favour the bigot. There’s a reason platforming bigots and fascists is a negative thing. This also applies to anti-science too like anti-vax and anti covid-protection. And this certainly applies to chauvinistic and imperialist talking points that you are defending.
We’re years into this. No one takes this kind of terminally online shit seriously: because it only exists to serve one particular nation.
Its entirely inconsistent and always has been. And no amount of brigading, editorial moderation, or any thing else will change that.
Its something you’ve ended up on the wrong side of, and everyone with eyes can see that. It doesn’t matter what it sounds like in the ever smaller echo chamber.
If you really believed you were right, you wouldn’t need to hide behind the same veil that liberals and fascists excuse their actions with.
Yeah, you’re right about that, no matter how much water libs carry for fascists, anybody who’s not guzzling propaganda out of the firehose can see what Ukraine really is at this point. Even the Poles are now starting to realize it.
This kind of editorial moderation is what libs and fascists do when they know their arguments can’t stand up to critiques. The silence dissent, because if they didn’t, it would be clear how in the wrong they are.
Same shit. Same mindset. Same goals. Same outcomes.
What part of I’m not a mod of this community are you still struggling to understand?
As a side note, Communists have never shied away from the need to censor harmful ideas, so there is no contradiction in us banning fascist views here. It’s the liberals who purport to champion their market place of ideas who have to do mental gymnastics to justify censorship they call authoritarian when others do it.
This is the kind of shit that equates one thing with another, horrible thing. Nazis say all the time that censoring them just makes one bad as them. It’s all just to protect horrible people from any pushback, it puts fascist ideologies on the same level as others.
Seriously, respecting people saying fascist shit only legitimizes them, it’s the same as platforming Nazis.
This is just seeing liberals and fascists use state power to entrench their ideology and concluding that doing that for any reason or ideology at all is inherently liberal/fascist.