• Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
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    3 hours ago

    I vote for the least evil party, which is never either of these assholes. I advocate for doing that and taking violent actions at every given opportunity, especially if these fuckeits are brave enough to show their faces in public.

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    5 hours ago

    Voting is for suckers! Totally don’t do it. Both sides same. Democrats are every bit as bad as Trump. They’re in the Epstein files and they tore down the White House, oh wait.

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      7 hours ago

      Remember “help us get Biden elected and we’ll help push him left?”

      Voting is incompatible, because Liberals will just vote and then go back to brunch of their candidate wins.

      It’s also incompatible with basic human decency to vote for a candidate who’s shown they’re happy to support an ongoing genocide.

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      12 hours ago

      Engaging with the theater benefits media companies (a.k.a. those in power). They make fat cash from the spectacle.

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    to all the dem voters: look at what they said how they would help the palestinians and then look at what they did. They don’t view you any different.

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      then look at what they did

      the trail of tears prove how little they actually look at what they did – they just shrug and go along w it.

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    Not voting is always the worst option. Anyone that tries to convince you not to vote is on the side of evil.

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      Not necessarily. If the ‘not voting’ creates awareness on issues and inspires action, then it can be good. It would be on what it is for and what its effects are.

      Generally, voting may be good. But if 3rd parties you like to vote for are not allowed or face structural impediments, then if you use not voting as awareness for it, it being good or bad would be on the effects, right?

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      Actually genocide is the worst option. Anyone who tries to get you to help with genocide is a nazi.

      the side of evil

      God, you’re a child. Is it any wonder the “free” world is rapidly nazifying when the average level of thought is “good guys vs bad guys”?

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      Is this a plot for a superhero movie?

      The superhero is called “Voteman” ofc

      He commits voter fraud by casting lots of votes

      He votes the nonvoters away

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        1 day ago

        fraud does happen, but it’s greatly overshadowed by voter suppression and disenfranchisement.

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          14 hours ago

          Its literally in the name. Anyway what “facts” did you have in mind? That Biden carried out more deportations than Trump 1?

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          In April 1963, MLK Jr. writes a letter while in jail.

          I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice

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              not touching on my opinion on this argument.

              What a shame. I’m sure we’d get a real banger out of the person defending genocide abroad and throwing trans kids under the bus at home as reasonable prices to pay to be able to go back to brunch in peace.

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                My personal neolib figure I give a vote to is Pritzker, who has signed legislation that made my changing my identification markers a 5 minute visit to the DMV, removed medical sign off for gender change on birth certificate, signed trans protections in healthcare, mandate transgender history to our state school curriculum, and hasn’t thrown us under the bus (publicly) yet, like Newsom (actually called Newsom and other Democrats out for doing so). That’s who I will be voting for in the primaries if they run.

                Yes he’s a billionaire. one of the enemies. Yes he wants a two state solution. But he at least is critical about Israel despite being Jewish himself and having received AIPAC funding no doubt. No, I’m not happy about these things, but on paper he’s not stupid enough to play centrist, like Newsom. Yea, swinging even more conservative will completely forfeit the election to the party he has called out for being the Nazis (he denies this now, but he has done it multiple times). So maybe it’s all talk.

                i’m actually trans, you telling me my vote doesn’t matter regarding today’s issues is like telling the people King spoke to that they shouldn’t fight for the vote because they are just seeking to participate in the rich white man’s game. Few protected rights I have in my state are because the evil neoliberal signed them into legislature. I can go get SRS if I wanted it and it is required for my Medicaid to cover it. How is this throwing trans people under the bus?

                I know fighting on this frontier may seem foolish to you. I know Pritzker is a billionaire politician giving a ton of lip service.

                I even consider the very possible reality that he may be saying these things because Dems have already locked in Newsom as the golden boy, and it doesn’t matter what Pritzker says because he’s just gonna run in the primaries to give the DNC the illusion of choice before he concedes to Newsom at the last minute, so it doesn’t matter what he says. (This is what I believe is likely happening).

                But, while I try and help my community locally where I can, (I’m disabled there’s not much but I try), I can afford to toss a stone in the direction that tells me it might bring some positivity, even if meaningful change doesn’t happen, because letting JD Vance win is so so so much worse.

                Yeah this sucks, but it’s what reasonable people are forced to do in this fucked up society.

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          What facts?

          Gavin Newsom repealing a trans care bill? Throwing them under the bus? Being bloodthirsty warmongers? How is this not on the side of evil??

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            But they’re very civil about their evil. The other guys will come right out and say the slurs in public instead of keeping them in the back rooms where the deals get made like JFK intended.

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          lol you have to pay thousands of dollars to get basic healthcare. shut the fuck up you haven’t achieved a singled victory for the working class in almost a century. facts.