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They’re many fancy tensors glued together and passed through activation functions.
Unfortunately the average human doesn’t know what matrices are so the llm looks like magic. Most people i know don’t understand even basic statistics. I guy at work the other day wanted to warn me about the bots escaping containment and how they’re going to destroy us all. I agreed about the destruction part but he refused to listen to anything about how they actually work. No stats for him, he’s an antivaxxer…
My mind is still blown in how words and concepts can be translated into high dimensional vertexes and through the math of their position and direction retain their meanings, and even be changed into the correct alternate versions by doing calculations on them. That doesn’t mean the vectors understand what they represent, but there’s some core level of meaning there. Same with LLMs. No thinking, they screw up stuff that a reasoning being would figure out. Yet there’s something in even the simplest local model that is far more than just autocompleting sentences. That is part of the mechanics, but not nearly enough to describe it.
I turn off all AI functions because they just get in my way and are frustrating when I’m working.
Occasionally I will use it to format or prep a document template.
AI has gotten better. I pasted in about 10 phrases I’d captured in a meeting for a project, and asked to to prep the document with sections etc.
I expected a generic template with some garbage.
It actually inferred a lot from the project notes and built a 5 page project scope, and included things such as testing parameters and thresholds for acceptance. Which were actually good criteria for the product. It also split it into sensible phases with close out criteria and triggers for next phase.
It suggested avenues of adjustment to make the product work along with back up ideas and the risk levelsof each.
Overall it nailed the product plan and phases and had really sensible suggestions, even with such limited input as a few rough notes.
It did better than most of my colleagues, and what I expected would be 2 days of my time researching and typing, was max 4 hours.
About 1/2 hour setup and generate, and the rest was me moving sentences around, or deleting stuff that might not be 100% relevant.
I just wish we had gotten to this state of things in a better way. Maybe it couldn’t have happened, but at least then we wouldn’t know what we missed and still have what we’ve lost.
I just say it’s a really big excel sheet. Text in on one side, run statistics, letters come out on the other side.
I remember reading someone suggest the term “probabilistic automation”, which doesn’t sound bad.
I refuse to call it “SI” because there’s no “I” involved. Same goes for “AI” for that matter. It’s a fancy autocomplete, so LLM is appropriate.
Super Autocomplete?
Literally ALL (modern) AI is just fancy matrices. That’s what the word AI means, and has been used for for several decades. Even a hypothetical True/General AI would be just be a wildly complex Matrix system.
In a way, the human brain is literally just an extremely fancy network of neurons that is mathematically a matrix system.
Getting upset at the term AI because “it’s just matrices” is “old man yells at clouds” level of discourse
Not quite, AI is split into three paradigms: symbolic, connectionist and semi-symbolic, you only considered the connectionist one
I misphrased, I meant to say all learning/adaptive AI systems are matrix based.
Symbolic systems are hard coded, and can’t learn or adapt to new input data, they can exclusively handle inputs that were explicitly hard coded into the system. Symbolic AI systems also imo are a bit of a misnomer nowadays, as they kind of blur the line between AI and just any old programming script. Arguably any code that contains even a single “if” or “switch” statement to handle an external input is technically symbolic AI, which includes almost every type of script and program in existence, making the term somewhat useless. Input gender -> if gender = M: output “hello sir” else if gender = F: output “hello madam” else: output “hello” is a symbolic AI. and with the prevelance of trained AI nowadays, I wouldn’t really consider it useful or descriptive to call symbolic systems AI, as opposed to just calling them a script/program.
Though that doesn’t invalidate my general point. If you’re upset about calling a complex matrix network AI because it’s “just matrices” then Symbolic systems would be even less “worthy” of that term, they’re just a list of “if else” statements. So my general point still stands, by OPs standards, literally nothing could ever be called AI, even a perfect simulation of an entire human brain with true artificial consciousness wouldn’t be worthy of the term “AI” by OPs logic.
You cannot invalidate what is called AI just because of the advancements in the fields, what you just described although simple is indeed AI and automation was humanities first attempt at AI anyways. On the other hand yes OPs point of view is invalid and I think that’s just part of the meme
Actually I can, language is fluid and changes and develops all the time, it is entirely possible for the definitions and colloquial understanding of words and terms to change and evolve as technology, science and society evolves.
And the whole point was that the term AI is useless as a term when it describes basically every computer script in existence. At that point, “AI” is no longer it’s own term, and effectively just becomes a synonym for “script” or “program”, which removes any utility of using it in the first place.
Well I see your point, but I’d suggest that it only stands in a casual/commercial context, research have been using it as an umbrella for the three paradigms I mentioned
As partzel points out this misses out a bunch of AI, roughly two thirds of the field infact. Including the expert systems that were the first computers to actually beat grandmasters at chess.
Built using no matrices at all.
The comments in this post are wild. A ton of modern physics is also just fancy matrices. What does the math being based on matrix operations have to do with… anything…?
Ya. You could also say our brains are just big wet, mushy containers for neurons …. Which is just a moist way of storing and processing fancy matrices.
I get upset at the term AI because obviously this is VI. Mass Effect settled this.
In a way, the human brain is literally just an extremely fancy network of neurons that is mathematically a matrix system
Only if you use Qubits in those calculations, assumably. It’s theorized that neurons are affected by quantum interactions, which would makes sense at least to me (who didn’t study quantum mechanics, lol).
It’s hardly comparable to the fancy one-shot simulations we call AI right now.
It would still be matrices. Just matrices that include quantum effects.
I don’t think ion channels are small enough for quantum interactions to be significant. Do you have any source for quantum interactions in neurons?
I think you’re right, but people love shoehorning quantum effects in anything they can. Decoherence is likely too fast in these systems to be meaningful: they’re relatively enormous
Brains are just fancy matrices too. That’s why the matrices are called “neural networks”.
Escaping “The Matrix” has a mortal connotation.
People want to feel more special than that 😀
The whole universe runs on quantum mechanics which is also just fancy matrices as well.
I avoid calling it AI because I like to be as specific as possible when referring to software types
Call it “LLM”
I call them “bullshit generators”
I call it Exported Thought. Or Lazy Braining.
I will admit, though, that its image generation gimmick has been entertaining and useful one or two times when I wanted to quickly create a meme in my earlier days of experimenting with it.
We should start using the term abominable Intelligence
Everything is either a fancy matrix or something that is locally well approximated by a fancy matrix
“It’s not AI because we can explain how it works” slop.
You don’t call it AI because you think Trump is a disgusting human being.
I don’t call it AI because I hyperfocus on stupid things and I’m a pedantic nerd.
We are not the same.
Simulacrum of Intelligence
