• heh@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    This was one of the biggest misinformation/propaganda campaigns I’ve ever seen.

    I won’t blame Zelenskyy for the claims, he’s at war and propaganda is a powerful tool. But the rest of the world just casually pilling on without verifying anything? (Including many well known and trusted news networks and big names). Absolutely unacceptable.

    Anyone who works in internet infrastructure should have been shutting this theory down from the start, but because the misinformation is “good”, everyone’s fine with it somehow.

    This event really made me lose faith in the world’s news organizations.

    Hell, right below this post is another one talking about all the Russian bots who have disappeared and all the comments are “confirming” it.

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    Extremely lazy copy paste:

    Did “Russian bot traffic” really disappear after Ukrainian strikes on Yandex servers?

    Despite multiple Ukrainian strikes hitting Yandex servers in Russia, a thread by antibot4navalny, which has long tracked state-sponsored social media campaigns and troll farms, explains that the Cloudflare “Bot Traffic” chart many people have cited is really about automated web crawlers operated by Yandex accessing the web.

    It’s not connected to “bots” posting on social media, and Russian bot/crawler traffic overallcontinues to be about the same as normal. Still, are you noticing any difference in the posts and comments you’ve seen online?

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      Thanks. OPs should do that anyhow.

      It stands to reason that attacking a few servers won’t stop all of Russia’s hybrid warfare, but it also stands to reason that there is some effect.

      In any case, I hope Ukraine continues to succesfully attack (hopefully without civilian casualties) Russian infrastructure. We all benefit from that.

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        If the goal is to gut down on fake posts, it’d be a lot more helpful if Ukraine were to drone a few troll farms. It might alos have a positive effect on the US November elections.

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          ‘Meddling with the US elections, eh?’ An imaginable question of the (bought and promoted by Russia) US president to Ukraine.

          I really like the irony of it. If Ukraine wants to affect the elections in their favour, they should target the bot farms indeed.

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            Unfortunately the Russian plan has already convinced a majority of republicans of their talking points. So now a decent proportion of the “bots” are human parrots who now largely believe their own bullshit. Or at least believe they need to troll to win for their side. Taking out the bots is nice, but a decade too late.

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          You don’t think they already have this?

          Why do you think this story blew up so much, being largely misinformation?

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    You know, I don’t believe there are so many Russian bots astroturfing the Internet. There are plenty of regular humans who truly believe Russia is doing nothing but defend itself, in “aggressive NATO expansion”, and a whole generally anti-West attitude.

    They hate America for being an imperialist power, which… Yeah. Absolutely. But then in the same breath state Russia isn’t, and that they’re nothing more than a victim of said Imperialism.

    Consider this an anecdote, but I have family who says these things. Bots need not apply.

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      They aren’t meant to be the star of the show. Their purpose is to be in the crowd and agitate. They’re the devil that whispers people’s ear.

      Bots would have proven to the a failure if a botnet went down and culture wars vanished. Their intention is to manipulate people. Not to wholesale substitute to the population.

      Besides the name itself seems to go over heads. Bot farms don’t operate out of a centralized server. They’re not even bots literally. These operations are farmed out to locations around the world. Sometimes they’re real human trolls.

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        But there don’t need to be trolls, or people deliberately put there by Russia to spread propaganda. There are plenty of people that already do this out of their own accord. Mostly the kind that also believe in other dumb things.

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    And it makes perfect sense that before reading this many people felt that they clearly see Russian bots vanishing.

    Human psychology is just not equipped for open Web. Especially social media kind of it. F2F and personal webpages and circles of friends are fine, but anything crowd-related is worse than sending pigeons.

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    I have the impression that there was some impact, but that it was less general and much shorter than when the Russian ira was temporarily shut down around the 2018 midterms. Maybe the effect was bigger + longer on sites with more account security like Facebook, but i don’t use any, so I wouldn’t know.

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    Enjoy while it lasts. They will spin up again on new regions. Take out all Yandex data centers, they’ll move to Alibaba cloud.

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      all the tankies here and on reddit saying it hasnt affected the bots at all, and there is no change in thier bot traffic.

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    I find it funny that these articles were posted in the SHITPOSTING communities and people took them seriously, which is honestly pretty common behavior in the… S-H-I-T P-O-S-T-I-N-G communities. I don’t go to aneurysmposting to complain that the posts are hard to understand…

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    Unfortunatley latestagecapitalism and it’s two prominent russian trolls are still going strong. u/saltyamerican and u/godlesscommie. Too bad.