• GeneralVincent@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      It’s 2023 and we’re still doing this? It’s pretty obvious neither is objectively better, stop being so loyal to companies and their products.

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        11 months ago

        It’s pretty obvious neither is objectively better

        This is kind of sad because it didn’t used to be the case because Android was miles ahead of iOS back in the day, likely because its development was driven by a healthy mix of many OEMs and the FOSS community.

        Now its just a java version of Google’s copy of iOS that just so happens to run on the linux kernel.

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        11 months ago

        They keep each other entertained though, it’s fun watching brand lovers go at each other.

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          11 months ago

          Corporate bootlickers are the worst. I don’t even find them funny just irritating and sad.

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                11 months ago

                Honey, that’s still android. That’s like using Edge and saying you’re not using Chrome. Yeah, you are. It’s supporting google’s evil control over an industry by using code from AOSP. Still, you’ll get points in my book for being de-Googled as much as one can be while still using Android.

                • GeneralVincent@lemmy.world
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                  11 months ago

                  Haha jokes on you, I lied. I’m not using LineageOS. I’m posting from a Google Chrome web browser on my Chromebook running ChromeOS. I don’t even know what LineageOS is, I just Googled it. Maybe I’ll switch to it after watching a YouTube tutorial on it, but for now my phone is just a rock and a string that I stare at for 3 hours a day ☺️ because I refuse to use Android

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                  11 months ago

                  Edge and Chrome are both closed source and owned by companies, so your comparison is just not valid. Using AOSP is certainly not supporting Google’s monopoly: AOSP is totally open source, was bought by Google a long time ago and they don’t own it due to its license (aside from the name maybe). Meaning you can still flash Android on a system without paying or using Google’s services or products.

                  It’s like saying you contribute to Google’s monopoly because you use Linux and Google (also) used it in its Chromebooks.

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                    11 months ago

                    Chromium is open source. Edge uses chromium. That’s how Google controls the direction of the internet. Chromium is evil and everything that uses it is supporting evil. Your comparisons are ridiculous. Linux doens’t need Android, lmfao. Tell me more about how you know very little.

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      11 months ago

      As an iPhone user, it is true. There are things I like about iOS specifically that prompted my move from Android but overall stock Android is a better, more configurable, modern OS.

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          11 months ago

          The big one is Apple’s new Advanced Data Protection. It’s very new, and it isn’t on by default, but that was a killer feature that brought me to Apple I don’t necessarily trust Apple any more than I’d trust Google, but the ability to E2E encrypt my cloud-backed data out of the box is something Google will likely never do.

          But I bet most users will never even know that exists.

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            11 months ago

            Google is really the only reason I won’t consider Android for anything. Time and time again they’ve proven themselves to be untrustworthy. Sure, Apple may collect your data, but their entire existence isn’t about selling that data to advertisers. I wish there were more options.

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              11 months ago

              Have you heard of graphene OS? Because this decouples Google and you still have an android phone.

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                11 months ago

                So… buy a google product and install other software on it? That’s still supporting google. I can understand why someone would not want to do that.

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                11 months ago

                The last time I tried to use a degoogled phone it was basically impossible. Authy isnt on any other store, updating apps was a pita, notifications didn’t work half the time because too many damn apps rely on Google’s push notification system…

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                11 months ago

                That’s still supporting Google and letting them dictate where technology goes. The same with using chrome, or anything chromium.

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                  11 months ago

                  You may want to do some research. The first bit is uhhhh… plain incorrect. The chromium based things, sure, I guess that could be said despite it being an open source project and easily forked.

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                    11 months ago

                    I’m gonna flip that around on you. Prove to me that LineageOS, an Android based operating system, no longer pulls in code from AOSP.

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                  11 months ago

                  Lemmy loves google, but I’m with you. I don’t use any of their products or services. People here say, “why not just buy their product and use other software?”

                  That’s still buying their product. And their software still lies within the offshoots.

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            11 months ago

            So your main reason is icon position. Not… like anything else. Alright then. Well you’ll be glad to know that’s possible on iOS now. Just… drag it around like… an icon.