• PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 day ago

    I can spend all day saying that that US capitalism is the biggest global threat to all forms of democracy but I squint my eyes at Putin once and (some!) people here will call me a star-spangled liberal. Frankly it’s frustrating.

    I totally see why tankies are pissed off with some of the people who criticize you, because many of those people are indeed absolute idiots, just like most people on the internet. But if you throw everyone you disagree with into the liberal basket, you’ve taken the easy way out.

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      2 hours ago

      When I criticize Putin (or any other anti-US leader) nobody calls me a liberal. Probably because I don’t make shit the fuck up and am aware of the role the US plays in the equation.

      Have you tried not having liberal views?

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      I give lip service about imperialism being bad but then support it anyway. It’s so frustrating when people compare me to others I agree with but don’t have the aesthetic I hope to project.

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      But if you throw everyone you disagree with into the liberal basket, you’ve taken the easy way out.

      Okay, but we’re not doing that. We’re not calling anarchists or other socialists liberals.

      We are however calling social democrats liberals, because welfare capitalism is still capitalism.

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        That’s fair and I agree with you. I have made different experiences as well, unfortunately, but if I throw you in the same basket, I’m not exactly practicing what I preach lol

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        I think we should admit that there is some oversensitivity with regard to perceived liberal agendas and that sometimes this gives way to reductionist characterisation and dismissal of opposition in our communities.

        I also do not think that admitting as such is anything tantamount to confirmation of the tankie critique by the liberals (see what I did there?), which is also arguably even worse on this exact issue.

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      but I squint my eyes at Putin once

      I would be curious to know what exactly this entailed, because if past events are anything to go by it may have been a less than tactful approach.