• yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca
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    6 hours ago

    it’s like people who crashout on drugs, and then blame the drugs instead of their choice to become dependent on it in the first place.

    There are other options, and it sucks that schools don’t have a technology class that goes over all of the different types of systems. Like, we learn about planets, religions, empires, but no, let’s not let the people in on the fact that open source exists . . . .

    • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      I get what you’re saying but “choosing to become dependent” on drugs is… icky, addiction is a disease. Maybe we need to start treating capitalism as a disease too not something the very vast majority of us are “choosing to become dependent on” it’s simply the best or only solution we currently have access to that seems to solve our current problem, even if it creates more in the long run. People need help and guidance not judgment and holier than thou attitudes

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        5 hours ago

        I agree with most of this, but while it is a disease and addiction does require help and support, you really can’t take the volition out of it. Generally choices are involved and in most circumstances we are all accountable for our choices.

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          2 hours ago

          Are we accountable for our choices when we are influenced so strongly by society to agree with the status quo? I see it all the time, people just repeat what’s socially acceptable, and many of us were taught blindly accept big brands like Microsoft, Apple, Google, etc. . .

          I just used drugs as an example, because it’s almost like people lose volition when they are swayed by social forces to almost never question the status quo, because like addiction, there’s a bond with the familiar.

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            46 minutes ago

            Yes. We are nearly always accountable for our choices, and addiction doesn’t take away choice; it just makes it harder. Think of all the people who have ever quit. They should be proud of that, because they made a choice and put in the work. Suggesting it was never their choice to succeed isn’t compassion in my view.


            I think you’re onto something real here, about social influence and other pressure. Not arguing that. I’m only talking about choice being a part of all this.

      • undrwater@lemmy.world
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        5 hours ago

        I’m an ideal sense, capitalism is supposed to give us choice. That’s the promise. That’s why we’re supposed to be able to “vote with our wallets”.

        Unfortunately, maintaining that ideal requires regulation, otherwise we end up with oligarchies.

        Now, where can I find capitalism?