• Grammaton Cleric@lemmy.world
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    2 年前

    Yeah, but Android doesn’t make me constantly enter my password to do basic things. Also, Apple takes away a lot of control from their consumers.

    I’ll take the phone that isn’t dumbed down tyvm

    • ijeff@lemdro.idOPM
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      Ideally you shouldn’t have to compromise. GrapheneOS without Google is an option.

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        It literally isn’t - Graphene only supports Google Pixel phones.

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          You’ve apparently missed the point. Graphene exists solely to harden security and privacy by disabling the googly parts of the phone. That is clearly what was meant by “without Google”

              • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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                Graphene is is way over hyped. You can basically the same thing with lineage os. The key is just not using gsf

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                  Unlocked bootloader is considered a vulnerability tho

                  But if your threats model is toxic Tim, satya and sundar, it will do the job just fine.

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                    You can relock the bootloader though can’t you?

                    Genuine question. I used to be an avid ROMer back int day until I got really really annoyed at all the hoops I had to jump through to use Google Wallet.

                    Now I have a Pixel 7a and I’m considering ROMs again. So I am wondering if I can just relock the bootloader once I find a ROM I like and it’ll pass all the Safety net bullshit and allow me to use my phone like it should be, just with a custom ROM on it.

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                  But then you can’t use any apps that require Play Services. The killer feature of GrapheneOS is letting you run Play Services in a sandbox.

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            And how do you know there aren’t hardware level trackers in Google’s chips? The kind Graphene can’t override? Do you trust Google not to do that?

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              Yeah I trust them not to do it. Cause when it was found out not if when it would hurt them.

          • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
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            I want to like Lineage, but while it doesn’t come with extra bloat, the system itself doesn’t do a whole lot of degoogling core services

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        GrapheneOS still takes away a bit of control though. Mainly in that it’s locked down for privacy in some ways that you can’t disable