I cannot understand how some people are living with this. It is unbearable

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    My retired parents live with me. I went ahead and put a PiHole on our home wifi. A day later my mother was literally complaining that she couldn’t click on ads on facebook. I told her those are ads and they track her and she says “well everyone likes to use the internet how they like to use it… can you put it back the old way? I want to look at these shoes”. Can’t fucking win.

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      My wife turns off the WiFi on her phone to avoid the pihole. She does this so she can watch the ads in her games to get an extra life or whatever. You’ll never win on that front and I won’t either.

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      People actually CLICK on ads??? Genuinely never had even an iota of desire to do that. I forgot it was even an option.

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        Boomers that aimlessly surf facebook. They’re still trying to figure out what the use-cases are for the internet thingy they pay $60 a month for.

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        I do when it is advertising something I hate. Publishers get dollars for clicks, pennies for impressions. That way I force someone I dislike to give money to someone I like.

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      I got a lot of complaints from family, too. Especially because I block Meta. I just let them bitch and I tell them things like “those ads are broken because of malware” which isn’t entirely untrue.

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      but this means that she would see the ads but not being able to click? I don’t get it. They should had just disappeared, no? Or was she complaining that she wasn’t seeing the ads?

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        The ads still appear in the facebook feed but clicking them results in a “this site could not be found” or similar error, is how I understood it to work. I know the PiHole basically makes it so the routes from “whateveradwebsite.com” end up not resolving to an IP address. I’m not sure how FB is serving them; so the text/image content might be coming from an FB server and the link is just an ad URL with a bunch of tracking info on it.

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      I know it’s rare, but there have been times I intentionally clicked on an ad - if it genuinely seemed like a unique or useful product I had some interest in.

      I imagine the fake-social-post type of ads are worth blocking though since it’s based in dishonesty and deception.

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        Some shops I only used once still send me their written newsletters and I don’t mind checking them if they do them entertaining, or about some niche products, even if I don’t consider buying them at all. I miss well-designed full-page print ads in magazines, or just those with a catchy imagery\wording. Now these all feel like a vintage, premium product, akin to vinyl records, if compared to what garbage web serves today. Such a weird thing to be nostalgic about, but I hope oldschool advertisers\smm persons feel it on their end too.

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          I get Royal Mint and Royal Mail news leaflets. I just like looking at pictures of stamps and coins lmao

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      “I’ll try to fix it. Now that I put it in taking it down brings the Internet down. Sorry, let me think how to fix this”

      And literally put up excuses until they get used to it. I’m sorry but they made you do stuff you didn’t enjoy for your own good while telling white lies, it’s time for payback.

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      1 year ago

      Great aunt was talking about all of these anti-aging pills that she was going to get

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      Hi, butting in here, hope you don’t mind a question - is there a place to go with basic I instructions on how I can set this up too? Thanks!

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        Yeah for sure. I’m no expert by any means, but I can talk through what I did.

        I used the instructions directly from their code repository: https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/#one-step-automated-install (I used option 1, the automated install). I did this on an old RPi2B that I had laying around.

        After I set up the pi, I got its MAC address. I used this to set a static IP address in my router settings. This is important to make sure the pi keeps the same IP at all times. Then, also in my router settings, I set the DNS server to be the pi’s static IP address.

        After all that was done, I just plugged the pi into a dedicated power supply and rebooted the router.

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      You forgot the endless popups in the 2000s, which led to every browser integrating a popup blocker since then (and which often fail to stop actual malicious popups, no less)

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        Yes, in these years are a lot of pop ups, pop unders among other crap in some pages, but normally in most pages there was, apart of an ocassinal Banner not much else to justify an adblocker. But nowadays, between ads, clickbaits, cookie consent, adblocker detections and ant-adblocker, paywalls and other shit like these, you need a lot of extensions and scripts if you don’t want that the page fills your browser and HD with all kind of PUPs and unwanted scripts, apart of an ad/trackerblocker. It’s a cats and mouse game between companies which want to track and profile you with all kind of dirty tricks, and the user and devs continuos searching contrameasures to show them the middle finger.

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      Almost, but needs a few tweaks:

      • Content should be border-to-border in the 2000 panel.

      • Needs to be 3 lines of content in 2010 and only two lines of content in 2018.

      • 2018 needs a slide-over autoplay video on the bottom-left of the content space.

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    As I recall, back in the late 90s there was a story in the Wall Street Journal about a man who loved receiving email spam. After a long day’s work he would go home and relax by looking through his email spam and order things.

    Some people are just like that.

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      I don’t like spam but I do like a good scam email, especially if they’ve actually given it some plot.

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    I once had a user whose PC would freeze every time they tried to see their desktop. Like, you minimise something full screen and the PC would freeze for a few minutes and crawl while the desktop was in view.

    Turns out they had more than 4,000 items on their desktop.

    That day I learned where Windows puts icons that don’t fit on the desktop (it stacks them all on the first icon’s place, lol). And this wasn’t even the problem they called about! They were just grumpily blaming Microsoft and working around it for years.

    I guess my point is computer illiterate/belligerent people will find a way around the problems they cause and just blame something/someone else.

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    I have it on good authority, if you type Google into Google, you can break the internet.

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      Wait a minute, the “Elders of the Internet”!? The Elders of the Internet know who I am!? You’ve got to let me have it!

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        All the better to track you with so you have no choice but to agree and agree to their arbitration clauses if you want to use their and their competitors’ products with no alternative to avoid it. Sometimes you can’t even use the mobile site when so many services and businesses have flat out broken their mobile sites just to force the app. I don’t like DuckDuckGo’s browser but I use it to block trackers in the background.

        • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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          This is correct. I use ddg for the same reason, and the “Desktop site” option for those little shits that broke their mobile site to force the app. If that option doesn’t work, I leave the site.

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            I found that Firefox mobile with adblocker solves 100% of my advlock issues, and usually fixes format and display issues with websites. Half the websites I view on chrome mobile don’t even fit on my screen anymore!

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              Last time I tried ff mobile, it was sluggish, and had no extensions. I’m guessing they fixed those issues? I like ddg mobile browser well enough, but I’d love to use ff on my mobile, too. And, yes, I did notice those formatting issues. I thought it was just bad design, but it’s the chrome engine? Interesting. Not at all surprising, though, but interesting.

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      Ah this brings back the memories of the race to close pop-ups as you can hear your parents coming home. For every one you close, three pop up to take it’s place. You can hear the key in the lock. Sweat pouring down your face you finally do it, you hit the last X and nothing new pops up. You have defeated the pop-ups… this time.

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      Yes, typical screens from these years, from a user who, as a newbie in the Internet, clicked on these beautiful banners and animations that were on certain pages with nice freeware stuff, screensavers, games, funny Powerpoints, etc… Nowadays these things do not appear and you can only notice that the PC goes every time slower and you know that you belong to the big family of the botnet community.

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    I used this scene in a cybersecurity training session. I knew it got the point across, when our resident ad-clicker asked me for advice to avoid that situation.

    E: she asked for advice for her home computer, as she didn’t understand that “at home and at work” meant “at home and at work with any device, not just work’s”

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    I have a friend who has their entire center 5th of their laptops screen just dead. they move windows around it to deal with it. I look at the way they’re using their computer and like I can barely reach it at their window size but it’s better than paying the $500 MacBook repair to them

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    My former co-worker was daily driving his browser without any extensions and didn’t see anything wrong with it. I was watching him work one day and he was literally fighting a battle against the unholy pop-ups just tryna download some free fonts. What could’ve been done in 2 clicks took him minutes to do trying to close all the ads and tabs kept opening, videos kept playing. It was painful just to watch.

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    I’m noticing some sites have become pretty unusable on mobile and I dunno what to do.

          • I use Firefox on my desktop and laptop devices. I’ve tried using Firefox on Android. It’s slow, and breaks on some sites. If you use it, good for you. I’m not gonna use it just for virtue signalling.

              • I don’t know the technical reasons. Probably due to people optimizing their pages for Chromium, since it’s the de facto standard. Most pages load slower on Firefox for me. Chromium based browsers are usually better. Also, most websites of Indian government break for me on Firefox. It’s probably their fault, not Firefox’s. But I don’t want to deal with the annoyance. Everything seems to work most of the time on desktop, though.

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              Stop making things up to justify your poor decisions. Caring about privacy and security isn’t “virtue signaling”, its just a good idea.

              • ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє@lemmy.sdf.org
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                Bruh. I do care about privacy and security. Otherwise I would’ve used Chrome or Brave. Stop acting like anything except Firefox is trash. (That is the virtue signalling part.) They’re not. I’d be happy if Firefox suited my needs on Android. I’m sorry that I can’t change my experience just because you say so.

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                  Firefox is very likely the best suggestion for people on android who have those concerns. I’m sorry it didn’t work out for you but that’s what you are seeing here, people reccomending the best option. No one is telling you can’t use whatever you want.

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      If you don’t need access to another VPN, Blokada does device-wide ad blocking on iOS and Android.

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    I don’t have adblock on my work computer. I don’t want it interfering with webdev and I’ve found it to do so in the past. But it’s interesting, the dichotomy between sites I use as development resources vs the rest of the web. My phone and home computer are unbearable without adblock, but on my work computer, the ads are hardly noticeable really.

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      Its ultimately based on the sites you frequent at work vs home. The sites i read stuff at work tend to be less in your face with ads,.so you know its there but theyre less distracting.

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        A few well placed and tasteful ads are fine. And sites you tend to read at work show it can be done.

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        I imagine developers are more likely to use ad block than majority population, so the related sites might have to be more tactical

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    I remember some video. It was a joke about IT remoting in to fix a computer. The icons on the desktop were shaped like a dick. Then it guy took a screenshot and was like I’m definitely sending this to HR as he sorted them alphabetically. Then the other dude was like “no put it back, infant find anything!” And the line that sticks with me, the IT guy says “there’s no sort by dick”.

    https://youtu.be/uRGljemfwUE