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    but I don’t understand why they don’t self-host

    Why would anyone self-host a FLOSS project? Trade secrets is not a concern, nor is it barring access to the source code repository. Why would anyone waste their resources managing a service that adds no value beyond a third-party service like GitHub?

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        Because Microsoft will eat your ass in your sleep

        So Microsoft has access to Firefox’s source code. So what? Isn’t the point of a FLOSS project that your source code should be made available to everyone?

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          Mozilla allegedly stands for a bunch of stuff that is be definition incompatible with hosting code on GitHub as it is. I bet a lot of people were expecting a lot more from them and instead got this move. Well… I guess this is like unique browser ID that each installation has or the fact that it contacts a 3rd party analytics company no matter your settings - people start by complaining and eventually even say it is right. lol so much for privacy and whatnot.

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            Mozilla allegedly stands for a bunch of stuff that is be definition incompatible with hosting code on GitHub as it is.

            Your statement is fundamentally wrong on many levels, including the fact that it goes against the fundamental premise of FLOSS which is that “the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software.”

            I bet a lot of people were expecting a lot more from them (…)

            You only speak for yourself. You do not have a mandate to speak on behalf of anyone, including Firefox users such as myself. Keep your personal opinions as personal. You have the right to have a personal opinion, but you do not have the right to pass them off as anyone else’s.

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              Your statement is fundamentally wrong on many levels, including the fact that it goes against the fundamental premise of FLOSS which is tha

              What is it in my statement that goes against that? Nothing. Just read Mozilla’s Manifesto and then tell me how hosting code on GitHub doesn’t go against Principle 2, 3, 4 and 7. Mozzila’s missing is “to ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all” and by pushing their code on Github they’re making it more popular, essentially perpetuating Microsoft’s dominant market position that is very likely to result in even more abuse, more ecosystems and less open solutions in the future. There’s no way to justify a company with Mozilla’s resources doing this.

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                Nothing. Just read Mozilla’s Manifesto

                Your trolling skills are subpar but given this is a lazy weekend I guess I’ll bite just for the entertaining value.

                Let’s go through “Principle 2, 3, 4 and 7”, shall we?

                Principle 2 The internet is a global public resource that must remain open and accessible.

                Making source code available through GitHub is a realization of Principle 2. You got it exactly backwards.

                Principle 3 The internet must enrich the lives of individual human beings.

                I don’t even know what could possess you to believe that making a software project available through GitHub would jeopardize this. Anyway.

                Principle 7 Free and open source software promotes the development of the internet as a public resource.

                That’s what making FLOSS projects available to the public through GitHub does. GitHub, by providing managed hosting to Mozilla to host Firefox’s project tree and making it available to the public, is unquestionably meeting this goal, both in its letter and its spirit.

                You need to put some effort into finding things to be outraged about.