In familiar predicament for famously challenging client, multiple Florida lawyers decline to take Trump’s case, people familiar with the matter say.

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      You’d think someone would want the case just for it’s historic nature. Whoever takes the job is in the history books.

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        The Venn diagram of lawyers that see this as good press for themselves and the lawyers that have the experience and record to work a case of this magnitude has an exceedingly slim overlapping area at this point. We’ve seen very good lawyers come and go from his team when he seemed eccentric but able to be represented and as that veil lifted the talent pool has shrunk. I’m not ragging on the people that agree to represent him - no matter the person or crime, they are entitled to competent representation and someone has to do it - but several of them have just been completely out of their depth.

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        I don’t think being attached to Trump’s name is worth it for most attorneys, even for “history” since they’re on the wrong side of it and also not getting paid. Being in the books isn’t very much worth it if you’re also broke and in jail with your client.

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    Thanks for gifting the WaPo article. Interesting stuff. Will he choose the scorched earth defense or the “flip one jurist” strategy. My guess is the former. He can’t help himself.

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      He had plenty of opportunities to give the documents back and either say “oops, how’d that get there” or even do something outrageous like return it and then try to blame it on Obama, but instead he chose to repeatedly double down on “the rules don’t apply to me”.

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    I disagree with the trump trials. They are politically charged and set a precedent of arresting your political opponents. I’m not saying he’s innocent or guilty but we should consider the bias

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      Did you read the indictment? If not, you should. It’s not long, and it’s easily digestible. They make a very solid case that Trump knowingly, intentionally held onto some of the most sensitive national security documents that we have, knew he wasn’t allowed to have them, lied about having them, and tried to hide them even from his own lawyers. Meanwhile, he had them stored in some of the least secured places imaginable.

      So what do you think the feds should do? Don’t you think not holding someone accountable for that is terrible? And you realize they used a special counsel for the investigation - that’s a role specifically designed to be independent from any political bias or manipulation.

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      Dude he stole highly, highly classified material, didn’t give it back when asked, lost some it, and had it stored in a bathroom.

      That’s far beyond politically charged. Read the indictment. Not all charges brought to politicians are theater

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      He’s a former president. Obviously it’s going to be politically charged, that’s unavoidable. But what’s the alternative, you just get away with crimes because you ran a country once? It’s not as if Biden personally ordered his arrest…

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      Anything around Trump is politically charged. That doesn’t give him carte blanche to flagrantly break the law.

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      I’m sorry, but do you believe that Joe Biden personally had trump arrested? lmao

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        Dark brandon is coming for all of your nuclear secrets. Especially those that you forgot in a bathroom.

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      They feds gave him a massive amount of opportunity to remedy the issue and has not been charged at all in any way for anything that he gave back. It’s only the stuff that he retained after over a year of lying and refusing for which he’s being charged. They practically broke their backs twisting around and trying to be as accommodating as possible to give him every possible chance, vastly vastly more patience than if literally anybody else on the planet had done the same, and still he didn’t hand it back.

      Imagine if he walked out of Target with a TV he didn’t pay for, but instead of tackling him or grabbing it they sat there watching as he loaded into is car. They sent him letters as he had people over and told everyone that he got it for free.

      Seriously, Trump had classified marking envelopes on display at the bar in Mar-a-lago. We know for a fact he was showing documents to people like the Discord guy. He stole nuclear secrets. He stole national defense information. None of the crimes he’s been charged with even require the documents to be explicitly classified, it’s enough that the sensitive nature of the documents is sufficient to make possessing them a crime. And yet he kept them by the shitter.

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        yeah that’s one major downside to lemmy. Forced to see these sort of braindead takes lol

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          Honestly, I kind of like if. Stops it from becoming an echo chamber. Refreshing to hear pure, unhinged lunacy, too.

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            r/conservative is still up and Twitter still exists. I don’t need to see that crap here too.

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            lol. I mean yeah I get what you are saying, but I know these people exist already because our own politicians are saying the same thing… Completely ignoring the indictment and that this is just an attack blah blah… Yet they wont comment on the actual charges. Sad really. Good chance for everyone to talk about how justice will prevail one way or the other through our justice system and that no one is above the law. Instead they are literally saying that the ex president is literally above the law. Need a RL downvote button

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          It’s up to the instance admins to choose if they want to present the downvote button. Use another instance.

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        I’m using Jerboa and I have a downvote button. I haven’t used the browser version much. Does it not have one?

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      Obviously the trial is going to be charged, as what is happening is unprecedented. Just because it’s charged doesn’t mean that it is driven by one party party wanting to wipe out their opposition.

      In a country with proper separation of power, the juridical system is generally considered independent from the political executive branch. Obviously US has some exceptions to that rule with some judge appointments and such made by government officials, but generally the rule holds true.

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      If not a trial, then what should be done if he is suspected of a crime? Just ignore it?

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        Obviously they should account for the feelings a large group of people that might be taken back by everything that is happening. Or maybe the suspected should just ensure that nuclear secrets aren’t left laying around willy nilly :)