• Mesophar@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        The statistic says 1/3 of homeless population has issues with drugs/alcohol, and 2/3 of that 1/3 (or 2/9) have lifetime histories of abuse…

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        1 year ago

        Your task is not to prove that drugs exist in the homeless community. For your point of them “fucking their lives up with drugs” to be true, you have to prove that their personal drug use was the catalyst for their living conditions. Do that or take the L.

        And to check yourself, you might want to look up the prevalence of drug use in more affluent communities. Hint: it’s a lot.

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        1 year ago

        So even if you’re right, you’d condemn the other 1/3rd to homelessness to spite the others? People that made bad decisions are still people. I hope you’ve never made any bad decisions…

        Also, you’re condemning entire communities. People in desperate situations often have to turn to crime. Paying for their incarceration (or healthcare for that matter) COSTS MORE THAN JUST PROVIDING FOR THEIR BASIC NEEDS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

        Your stance is stupid, cruel, and shortsighted.

        • HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social
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          1 year ago

          Two major schools of thought:

          We should help everyone, even if it means “bad people” can take some from the system.

          We should not help anyone but a tiny fraction of people so that no “bad people” can benefit from the system.

          Personally, I don’t really favor making the world that much worse to avoid some spoilage. We can do better than hurting a lot of people so we get the “bad” ones, who in my view are responding to material conditions, neurology, and history.

          I don’t know that any particular person said it, but I agree with the notion that the first sign of civilization was a human corpse, with a femur that had been broken, and then healed. A human with a broken leg is pretty screwed on their own. Someone had to help that person get food and water long enough for it to heal. Civilization is when we help each other fulfill our needs, and that’s beautiful.