“If you’ve ever hosted a potluck and none of the guests were spouting antisemitic and/or authoritarian talking points, congratulations! You’ve achieved what some of the most valuable companies in the world claim is impossible.”
“If you’ve ever hosted a potluck and none of the guests were spouting antisemitic and/or authoritarian talking points, congratulations! You’ve achieved what some of the most valuable companies in the world claim is impossible.”
Just want to take a moment to say…
Thank you, moderators. Sincerely.
There is one complaint that I have about the mods across Lemmy, they seem to be hesitant to crack down on trolling. This has, in turn, made trolling easy thanks to the audience Lemmy attracted. Love the mods here, but when someone calls out a troll, maybe don’t remove the comment calling out the troll and leave the troll alone to continue trolling. Your contribution is actively negative if you do this.
Defining “trolling” is complex.
People have unpopular opinions that they vehemently defend… it’s not always bait or just being an asshole for the fun of it.
The difference between “notice me, I’m an attention-seeking asshole” and “notice me, my opinion is unpopular” can be difficult to discern, but becomes obvious with context. Most especially when you both point them out and provide the context. As an attention-seeking asshole, it’s a bit frustrating to be told that I can’t recognize someone doing what I do, but far less subtly.
I think just the nature of social media in and of itself creates “trolls”…
Everyone seems to think WE all know everything about everything and we just can’t resist the compulsion to tell and “educate” others .
That’s precisely why it can be frustrating to attempt to save someone the headache of engaging with a person speaking in bad faith, only to have the warning removed and to be told “don’t do that again, you’re being rude.” There are quite a few naturally occurring issues with social media, not least of which are trolls, and to hand wave them does little to improve the situation.
Look, all I’m saying is that if I see a streak of people writing dissertations in reply to a visibly disingenuous commenter, my warning might be worth keeping.
Lol… I don’t even know what to say to you anymore…
It basically goes back to what I said earlier… People define things differently and believe and are passionate about different things.
“Bad faith” is something that people may not always agree on and could be considered subjective, too.
Cool though… I guess it kind of proves my point actually.
Dude, it’s accounts named “boomer opinions” or “communist git” roleplaying as racists and extermination enthusiasts. I understand your point, you just lack context and a relevant point. Had you asked rather than affirmed, you might have had both.
The mods are trolls too. don’t kid yourself. I’ve had several less than amazing mod interactions. There’s even less here on Lemmy to prevent mod abuse, and it’s absolutely already rampant.
One doesn’t need to browse the modlog of instances like lemmy.ml for long to realize there’s still a lot to be improved on. Mods and admins can just delete your messages and ban you for literally what ever reason and there’s nothing you can do about it.
One could argue that doesn’t matter on Lemmy because you can just move to another instance, but considering how much complaining there’s about twitter here every single day here I’m not sure if those people actually believe what they’re saying.
That’s certainly part of what made reddit get so shitty too.
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