If I learned one thing, when talking with people about stuff like that: Most people unfortunately don’t care. Many don’t even have an ad blocker to begin with.
ah, time for a re-watch I guess
What is this from?
Look, I was among the glorious warriors who installed Firefox on his parents/grandparents PC and replaced its shortcut’s image with IE’s one (because old people hate changes and won’t accept it easily)
- Oh again! They keep changing my Google internet!
- Yes grandma, it’s Windows… (« It wasn’t Windows » says the narrator in a deep and mysterious voice) Do you want me to install Linux? It’s free and open source and…
- Keep that commie thing away from me, I like that meadow picture…
- You know you can change th…
- Don’t you dare!
Anyway. We did it. We killed IE hegemony. It’s up to the new generation to take the baton and fight against the tyranny of Google.
The idea of installing Linux on a grandparent’s computer is just asking for trouble. I convinced my father in law to give a Chromebook a try since he mostly just uses his computer to get online and boy, was that tricky. The average person has no idea what an Operating System is and will call you the minute they can’t install a new program for some reason.
It can be very good for folk who are too tech illiterate to install any program by themselves.
The people who don’t care and don’t have an adblocker aren’t and weren’t ever the target. The people who are being targeted have an adblocker, and they’re all moving to FireFox.
What Google is getting out of this most of all is future compliance as new users coming to Chrome will never know a world in which ad blockers were freely available on Chrome, as well as dog whistling this to other corporate browser vendors.
Long term they will move to Firefox also.
Because people like us will continue to suggest they use Firefox as their “tech person”.
It’s just a little slower for the people that don’t care.
That is exactly how Chrome took over internet explorer back in the day.
Don’t forget they’re pushing chrome on the whole internet. Websites are already telling Firefox users to fuck off if we aren’t spoofing chromium and it’s only going to get worse after this.
Firefox is my daily and I very rarely encounter a site that specifically rejects it. Do you have some examples?
Seriously it’s opposite for me actually. I find that websites tend to have issues on chromium but they don’t on Firefox
I’d tell you but it’d dox me. I can’t pay my utilities on Firefox.
I doubt most people use an adblocker.
Anyone who’s aware of these issues or cares about them really should have been smart enough to switch to Firefox a long time ago.
Which makes this even more annoying. Like you have good chunk of the world using your browser with ads, but you still want even more and are still taking these types of scummy actions.
I think they’re taking aim at people who use an adblocker because it’s simple and won’t bother if they make it harder than installing an extension.
I’ve seen this one before.
- A ton of people will complain
- Firefox will get a bunch of users for a few days
- 90% will go back to Chrome
That last 10% will be happier but that’s just the way it goes. This is based on Netflix, Reddit, Twitter, and Microsoft.
There were people back in the day who thought that the internet was that fancy E on the desktop (internet explorer) and would have their brains melt when trying to explain alternatives. I think that people now have this problem with a fancy G.
And thus, entropy is presented. Even if only 10% go to Firefox, thats still 10% that aren’t going back to Chrome. And if this repeats with similar results, as you imply, that 90% going back to Chrome is gonna be a lot smaller a few iterations from now.
Until they use their multiple monopolies to further cripple the experience for competitors, entrenching their dominance, and allowing them to force their proprietary standards on the internet, killing any remaining pretence of Internet freedom.
The description is “Google will disable MV2 extensions in 2024, including ublock origin” and the title is “Google will disable Ublock origin in 2024”
YouTube clickbait title moment.
I use firefox btw
The majority of people on Chrome at this point are the same people that only ever used Internet Explorer until like 2015. They aren’t even using Ublock, they don’t even know what it is. The kind of people who have their nephew set their computers up for them.
How dare you! I AM the nephew that sets up their computers for them, and I install Firefox.
Good man.
Not sure they understand the flow on effects. Those of us being affected and work in the corporate IT space who have a lot of say in what browsers are used will simply replace chrome with Firefox on our thousands of machines nationwide without a second thought. They are digging their own grave.
It’s a little more complex then that.
First we need to draft a project to keep the PMs happy. Then test the change…
Then get it through change management…
Or just have our friends in secops make it a security call and a priority. Not saying I’ve done this before - no sir.
Don’t forget the six months of complaining and loss of service desk productivity because people still can’t figure out how to import their bookmarks.
Sadly, their user base is really every idiot with a cell phone or MacBook and not those of us who do as you suggest.
Their masterplan is possibly to deactivate certain websites for anything but chrome.
Back before web browsers had ad-blocking extensions, we had programs like Web Washer. It was a local, ad-blocking proxy program that you ran along side your browser. To use it, you just changed your browser’s network settings to point to Web Washer. And the ads would be filtered before they even reached your browser. It would be no problem to implement this again.
PiHole is the most common way I hear of network-level ad blocking these days.
blocking YouTube ads can’t really be done just with a DNS adblocker tho. if it could then my pihole would be blocking them too
It’s a proxy though, so it could inspect the actual content, detect ads and do something about it. Peertube, Grayjay etc bypass ads just fine so I guess it could be done with the webapp?
it can’t inspect the content because https exists. it can only see where you are attempting to connect to
Well yeah it would have to MITM the connection, like Avast does.
Google when people don’t stop using chrome and just disable ublock:
:)
They won’t make people disable uBlock. They’ll just make it stop working, and people will just think the ads have gotten better or uBlock has gotten worse.
Fortunately there’s so much chatter on this that maybe it won’t be that way.
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Does NPC mean the same as “low value human”? Asking for a friend.
Also, what a terrible take.
I’m sure some people will swap, but nah no way it’s a meaningful loss
Ad blockers will still exist too, they just won’t be as effective. If the layman installs an ad blocker and gets one less ad, they won’t question it further
It won’t do anything to their market share. At work my colleagues keep asking me “Why don’t you use chrome?” or saying things like “Isn’t Firefox slow?”. They simply don’t know or don’t care to know. Also Firefox IS slow or just doesn’t work, not because it’s a bad browser but I’ve been seeing a trend of websites being designed to make it appear slow, like YouTube takes 5 extra secs on Firefox to load videos Clipcham and Adobe outright not supporting Firefox on their websites. The internet is a clown show.
Remember the net neutrality debate? I do.
This is now a balancing act to see how much they can cripple the internet for their own benefit without affecting market share enough that it hurts long-term profitability.
I’m sorry, but you work with a bunch of morons of they are harassing you about it.
Sadly, they know damn well that people won’t stop using it
Anecdote, but all of my friends & family members that depend on me for computer support have already stopped using it. IT at my company has also decided to stop loading it with their install images, because “ads are known attack vectors”.
Makes me wonder why they’re actually doing it. How much revenue do they think they’ll gain from blocking ad blockers? Are they doing this for that revenue, or are they trying to tell advertisers that Google ads are a safer investment?
uBlock Origin has a Manifest V3 version, it’s not going anywhere. I swear there are more people not reading anything here than Facebook.
It has but i read somewhere its very limited and can be disabled by Google whenever they want.
The vast majority of Chrome users will continue to use Chrome, as the vast majority of internet users do not use adblock software.
What platforms does chrome come as default on? I know it’s on google products like pixel, but mac and pcs still have safari and edge, right? What kind of people know enough to get a non-default browser and not enough to get adblock?
And everyone rediscovered Firefox and the world was at ease.
