Donald Trump will be arraigned in federal court today, Miami braces for protest
- Court appearance takes place at 3 pm ET in Miami
- Expected to plead not guilty to 37 counts
- Will voluntarily turn himself in before that
- Will be fingerprinted digitally
- Mugshot will likely not made public
- Will not be handcuffed
Former president Donald Trump will be arraigned in Miami federal court Tuesday to face 37 counts connected to his keeping hundreds of classified documents at his Mar-A-Lago estate in Palm Beach after leaving the White House.
Trump has his first appearance scheduled for 3 p.m. Tuesday at the Wilkie D. Ferguson Jr. U.S. Courthouse in downtown Miami. Federal agents and police, media and crowds of supporters and detractors are expected to fill the streets around the courthouse.
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Updates:
Times are Eastern Standard Time
12:52pm
Police motorcycle escort arriving at Doral.
https://twitter.com/KarliBonnita/status/1668659961801453569
1:33pm
Trump Motorcade heading to Miami Courthouse
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1668674339820953602
1:46pm
Trump posts to social media from motorcade
1:52pm
Trump arrives at Miami Courthouse
https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1668678566731456512
https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1668678847191982080
2:14pm
Donald Trump formally arrested on federal charges, will appear before a judge shortly
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1668683739180703745
3:00pm
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Trump now in federal court
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Special Counsel Jack Smith is in attendance
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Trump pleads “not guilty” to all 37 federal charges
3:15pm
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Trump has been released without any travel conditions, as he is reportedly not a flight risk per the judge.
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The judge said that former President Trump could have no contact with any witnesses in the case
3:55pm
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Trump motorcade leaves courthouse through crowded streets
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Protesters, one wearing a prisoner costume, jump in front of Trump’s motorcade as he leaves court
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1668710687915253760
4:15pm
Trump makes a stop at Cafe Versailles after leaving courthouse
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1668715242019340288
5:00pm
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Trump departs Miami airport for New Jersey
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will deliver speech at 8pm from Bedminster
I would love to see him in a regular prison like he deserves, but can a person with secret service protection even get anything worse than house arrest? I’ve been unable to find clarifying information on this.
What he deserves is to not have special treatment anymore, but who knows how it will happen
I would imagine convictions related to espionage would probably strip you of any secret service protection. People argue that it’s a former president’s right to have SS protection, but remember the SS hasn’t always been about protecting anyone, the used to only be counterfeit currency police
From what I can gather, the Former Presidents Act mandates lifetime protection for all former presidents unless they were removed from office under Article II. So the only current way for Trump to lose Secret Service protection would be for him to decline it.
Im now imagining Trump in the prison yard wearing an orange suit with suited up body guards. For real though, maybe they can just hire new security guards from the inmate population. Okay, for real for real, I have no clue what would actually happen lol
I believe they can also decline protection if they so choose although that’s not really relevant to your point.
Or amendment of the act? Laws can and should change, that’s how government grows
I can’t imagine something like that passing through US Congress at this point, though. It will 100% be seen as an “attack on Republicans” by Trump’s allies.
An attempt to change the rules/laws to target a specific individual would rightly be seen as an attack on Trump/Republicans.
If the law was changed in such a way that it only ever applied to a specific person sure, but changing laws after someone does something is kind of the way things work. Somebody does a thing, everyone goes “I can’t believe they did that, there should be a law against it” and then a law gets passed or amended. Is that law targeting that specific person at that point? Kind of, in that the actions of that person prompted the change, but it would have been the same if a different person had done the same thing.
Yeah was going to say targeting an individual is a probably a no no but targeting a criminal is something completely different should he be tried and found guilty.
Well sure, but that doesn’t fit the victim narrative these people so love, you see.
Yeah, Congress could always change the law, though I doubt the current one would. I’m just saying that there’s no current provision for revoking protection for a former president unless they were removed from office under Article II.
The Secret Service being tasked with protection of president et al. is written into law, so it literally is their current right. The original purpose doesn’t really matter.
But obviously it should be stripped away for treason etc.
It truly baffles me how so many people can still support him when the evidence is overwhelming. Love is blind I guess (pretty sure anybody protesting for him would give him a BJ is trump asked 🤷).
Remember that they only get their information from pro-Trump sources. Imagine if you didn’t listen to anything but FOX News, OANN, Newsmax, and the like. All the “news sources” you listened to told you that this was a witch hunt and that anyone who disagreed was a traitor to this country.
You’d likely wind up shouting about Trump’s innocence and how this was all political retribution.
They’re wrong when they say this, of course, but the root cause is a refusal to listen to anyone who tells them a contrary position.
My proposal has been house arrest at Mar-A-Lago with a twist:
First of all, no visitors. That includes no members allowed to come stay at Mar-A-Lago. Not even Trump’s family. Mar-A-Lago can refund any membership fees because Trump will be the only resident allowed besides Secret Service and security guards hired by the feds.
Secondly, Mar-A-Lago is taken over by the federal government. Trump could owe fines as well as prison time and this could help pay the US back. (This also means he can’t charge the Secret Service to stay in his club.)
Third, Trump’s movements are highly restricted. He’s confined to a small guest bedroom (not his normal one) for most of the day. He’s allowed out for meals and 1 hour of “exercise” a day. Obviously, smartphones/computers/social media are NOT allowed at all.
Finally, Mar-A-Lago gets a downgrade. Trump doesn’t get a cushy bed, but whatever a standard prison bed would be. He doesn’t get his normal meals, but whatever slop the prison food service cooks for him. I wouldn’t expect them to make his stay imprisoned at Mar-A-Lago into 100% the same as a federal prison, but they could get it as close as possible. (Keep any luxury for the guards and Secret Service. They’ll need to be dealing with Trump daily. They deserve some comfort.)
Who knows what’ll actually happen but they could always segregate him with an SS detail in prison.
It makes me sick seeing 10x the amount of cops as were present for Jan 6 there just to protect this fucking dipshit. There’s something really wrong about that.
They’re there to protect the courthouse from the same people who were at Jan 6.
They prevented the Capitol Police from getting sufficient number of people and equipment without permission from Trump and he never gave it, if I remember correctly.
You should join the discussion on the very subject of the problem of US police…
All I know is that if I were indicted with the same charges, I’d be sitting in prison awaiting trial
Trump keeps claiming that he’s being treated differently and he’s right, but not in the way he means it. He’s not being persecuted. He’s being treated with exceptionally soft kid gloves.
He was given multiple chances to return the stuff he took. He was asked politely before a subpoena was issued. He was given time between the subpoena and the raid to turn everything over. After the raid, he wasn’t immediately arrested and tossed behind bars. They even allowed him to come in and skip some procedures like being handcuffed and getting his mugshot taken.
He’s been given way more considerations than anyone else who committed even remotely the number of infractions that he committed would get.
If Trump wants to not get treated differently, I’m all for it. Arrest him and toss him in jail while he waits for his trial. As a bonus, suddenly his usual tactic of delay, delay, delay won’t be as attractive.
You probably wouldn’t even get that far honestly. Normal people don’t really have a chance in these sorts of cases.
If any of us were indicted on even 1 of his 37 charges we would have been rotting in federal prison for the past 3 years
You’re not the only one who thinks that
Obviously, it’s different because of who the defendant is. But I see it in kind of an opposite way: If Trump were anyone other than a former president, he would not have been given the luxury of a summons to appear in court. There would be a team of armed FBI agents outside his door at 6:30 in the morning, he would have been arrested and the government would be immediately moving to detain. So the idea that he’s being treated differently is true – but not from the way his supporters seem to be arguing.
Just want to say how good this post looks. Easy to follow updates with links and videos embedded. Great job lemmy!
Was just thinking this looks so much better than reddit…
i dont know if it looks that much better to me but it looks about the same, which is good for me personally
im just happy its workin to some degree at all. im kinda psyched on my first day poking around here
The judge said that former President Trump could have no contact with any witnesses in the case
ABC commenting on this being a big deal because that’s basically his whole campaign team lol
If what’s already transpired is any measure, there’s literally no way Trump can prevent himself from breaking the very, very few rules they have given him to follow in this case. It’s part of why he is struggling to find new legal counsel, because very few want to represent someone who does so many self-incriminating things on the daily.
he wanted to give some classified information, but instead of just handing them a document and saying “here’s that thing you asked for” they literally have him on tape saying ‘this is classified, I know it is, I could have declassified it but I didn’t, now I can’t, it’s totally classified and I’m not supposed to have it and I’m definitely not supposed to show it to you so don’t look too close’. Dude is terminally desperate to feel cool and important and it’s quite literally gonna land him in federal prison.
Sad we don’t get to see his mugshot or see him in handcuffs. If only the rich were treated the same as everyone else
I’m torn on the mugshot. On the one hand, I agree with your general point. On the other hand, he’ll just use a mugshot to bilk money out of his marks. But on the gripping hand, last time they just photoshopped a mugshot, so does it really matter if he has a real one?
haha holy shit
6’5” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. He’s tall but not that tall. Also “president” lol. As if they include that with mugshots.
Automatic upvote for the Niven reference. I don’t think anything would stop Trump from grifting money from his supporters. It’s like the kobayashi maru, the only options are the least bad ones.
In this case I think they’ve opted to split the difference and take a mugshot proving he’s still being treated like a criminal (although it would have been better to have forced him to wear handcuffs), but not release it to deny him as much free fundraising fodder as they can.
Ultimately as you point out it won’t really matter, they’ll just photoshop something, but at least this way someone will need to put in the effort to make the image and we’ll all get some entertainment about how horrendous of a job they’ll inevitably do.
They’ll give him money either way; it would be great campaign material for Biden though.
I’m sure that the people showing up in jail outfit cosplay will be entirely well behaved individuals…
I like the tactical yee haw cosplays equally as much:)
Did the guy in the prison costume get arrested? I’d say that’s irony if it weren’t in the midst of this circus.
I imagine they got arrested, because they wanted to get arrested to serve as a statement in combination with their apparel.
maga is just the noise the average conservative makes when gargling tr*mps sac
*noise easiest eay to detect an alt right psyop is their spelling
How anyone still supports this dude is beyond me. The horrible shit he’s put a lot of people through for his own gain is pretty astounding. I’m amazed he can even find a lawyer at this point.
No mugshot again? :(
I’ve heard mixed reports on that… Trump is either being allowed to provide a photo in lieu of mugshot or, if a mugshot is taken, it will not be made public.
What are the plausible outcomes of this process? Will he be freed under bail? Put under house arrest? Jailed??
He’ll walk out of the courthouse and be free until after he’s convicted. He’ll plead “Not Guilty”, and the case will go to trial. That could take up to a year. Until he’s convicted and sentenced he’s free just like NY. He’ll be posting to Truth Social later this evening from Mar-a-Lago.
He’ll be in NJ tonight at a private fundraising dinner that’s $125k a plate.
Ah, well I don’t pay much attention to him on a day-to-day basis, I’m only really interested in seeing him face consequences for literally anything he’s done.
The news I want is increasingly local. City council stuff, crime, policing, road closures, public transit issues, events, new businesses & organizations, “area man grows amusingly-shaped potato”, “local landlord fined for hosting illegal pony fights in tenants’ attic”.
The biggest loss is not having the mugshot. Imagine the thumbnails!
We will hope they will keep it civilized.
I hope they bring him in using the exact some methods they would use for a homeless black man.
“dont be too nice” - Donald Trump, 2017
Yeah, rough him up a bit. Maybe hit his head on the car roof.
The hand on the back of the head? you don’t need the hand, remove the hand! -paraphrased trump quote
And keep him in the same prison conditions.
They’ve always been model citizens. I expect the utmost regard for decorum today.
As they say, you can wish in one hand and shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.
Should we expect to see any Nazi flags today?