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    11 months ago

    If I’m not being waited on, don’t look at me to provide you the rest of your wage. Look to your employer.

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      No matter what, it’s always the employer who should pay the whole wages even when you’re being waited on

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        It shouldn’t be, but it’s US law.

        https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips

        An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage.

        Fuck this law, and fuck employers that try to skirt around it when tips are too low. Also fuck employers in general who aren’t willing to pay their employees a living wage.

        I tip for waiting jobs because I know people work for shitty employers and it’s their primary income source. But I hate the system, not the people who need tips to get by.

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          Commission is wrapped up in the sale price, not a separate payment to the employee that I decided upon. The company takes payment and then they pay the employee. This also makes sure the employee is not getting stiffed.

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        The employee didn’t put it there, but they sure do whip that thing around to let you use it fast enough though.

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        Yeah, the Mediterranean market near me just got a new credit card reader and the pre loaded software came with the tip screen on it.

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          Yeah they can turn that off but choose not to. Just saying. Company making the software hopes you’ll leave it on and the business owners hope you’ll pay their employees for them.

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      Canada is debatably worse than the US when it comes to tipping. In the US, wait staff are paid less than minimum wage so it makes sense to tip them (even though the system should change), but in Canada they is no such exception and the minimum prompt is 18%.

      Also, the other day Subway prompted me to tip…

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        US Subway store point of sale systems are asking for tips as well now. It’s really off putting. I hope no one starts tipping there, it’s already too expensive for what you get.

        No need to feed to the problem with this business practice. I only tip those with occupations that have already required tips prior to the pandemic. It’s like the existing nuclear pacts. No one is allowed to start obtaining nukes if they didn’t have any before!

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        While Canada has no explicit exception to the minumum wage law, the minimum wage in Canada is still laughable and is absolutely not survivable for how expensive living here is.

        Though the solution here is not tipping, which ignores every other customer service and “”“unskilled”“” labour worker that isn’t in food service. It should be raising the minimum wage to a post inflation value that reflects current costs of living, and committing to continuously updating it so it stays even with inflation and rising costs in general (not unheard of, some European countries for example use a formula to calculate every year’s minimum wage based on current inflation and cost of living). Actually, we shouldn’t have a single national minimum wage but one depending on where you live so it reflects your actual survival expenses. Both Vancouver and Vanderhoof enjoy fast food and coffee shops but the employees in the former have a much harder time living in the city they work in than the latter despite doing the same work and making the same contribution to their fellow residents (or if nothing else, they do more work in a larger city with more people while not being able to afford the larger city).

        And yeah, Subway’s been doing that for a while, at least in the part of Canada I am.

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      11 months ago

      The Czech Republic does. Don’t know how common it is in other European countries.

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        Germany does. I tipped 15% my first time at a german restaurant (because waitresses there have the same minimum wage as any other worker and the reason I tip 20% in the US is because they only make $2/hr here) and the waitress literally asked me if she did something wrong.

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      11 months ago

      The worst part is that many businesses are introducing this tipping scheme.

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    If some fucker tries to guilt me into tipping in Europe like this, they get “no tip”, then a 1 star review on Maps and TripAdvisor explaining exactly why they spoiled my experience

    Imdoingmypart.jpeg

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      In the US we obviously have had the problem of tipping for some time, but it was covid that sent everything completely off the rails. Once lockdown started, you starting tipping places even though you weren’t dining, and then even places where I wouldn’t have tipped before, if they asked for a tip I was usually giving a tip out of sympathy, and so on. And then lockdown ended but these things never went away. They came in under the radar at a time when nobody would protest the idea.

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    I hate how tipping is now customary at every single restaurant now, including places without servers.

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      Just wait until you visit a restaurant that automatically adds 18% gratuity then also expects you to tip on to of that.

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        Yeah I’ve been to a restaurant (a few weeks ago) where the bill included a line item that said something like “18% hospitality fee - to ensure our workers are fairly compensated, this is not a tip”

        Like WTF.

        If it was disclosed anywhere on the menu, I didn’t see it.

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        That’s when I just let them have the hole they dug. I’d normally at least tip 20% (usa of course.)

        I get that the service staff has little to no control over this charge, but I got it earlier tonight on a party of two. No extra service, no check-ins, no waters, nothing other than “here ya go.” They even had a QR code to order and pay with phone number, email, and address requirement even though I’m out of town on a one off drop in.

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          You know, if they include a mandatory fee, it gets taxed too. So that 18% gets sales taxed on top of it, bringing it close to 20% anyway. You end up paying the same amount and the government just gets more. Overall dumbbbbb

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          Okay, that’s insane. Part of the social contract we have in tipping culture is that your server is supposed to be a superstar. Crazy nightmare dinner rushes aside, no waters???

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          Oh you sweet summer child. I’m not talking about the “large group” gratuity (which is also bullshit)… I’m talking about restaurants that are now adding an 18% gratuity for every bill - even if you just came in to have a drink.

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            Sounds like a good reason to pay the bill with the CC and dispute it as fraud after the fact. Chargebacks hurt businesses.

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          The “fuck you pay your staff” sentiment is very valid, however, you shouldn’t reward a business that doesn’t pay their staff well with your money. The reality is, every single restaurant pays their staff a slave wage for the work they have to perform. Even chain restaurants work their employees like dogs. People who excel in the restaurant biz are hard working mfers.

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            Yeah. That’s actually the “fuck you” part, as in, I’m not returning. As it is, I rarely eat out, partially for this reason, partially because inflation is painful.

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        But that’s literally what the gratuity is for. Conscientious restaurants want to make sure their staff gets a little something something from a large party, auto grats are for that reason. If they expect a tip on top of that, something is wrong.

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          Some restaurants are now starting to do this for every bill - not just for large groups.

          If a restaurant owner won’t pay their staff enough without tips, that’s the real problem.

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      I keep hearing this, but I’ve never encountered it. Still only given a tip screen on debit machines at regular sit down restaurants. Never once seen it in a fast food or retail environment.

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    11 months ago

    The problems with tipping culture aside, the eyes in this strip are just perfect. I love it.

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    I don’t understand how it could ever become acceptable for wages to be paid directly by the customer rather than by the company.

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    My rule of thumb: if they would refill my drink then this is a tipping place. Non-food places are judged case by case. The rest are laughed at and I do my best not to come back.

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      I’m a school bus driver and we get tipped (at Christmas and the end of the year). It’s fucking ridiculous. One of my coworkers last year even handed out tip envelopes to the kids - and got suspended for it, fortunately. Imagine being a parent and seeing that bullshit when your kid brings it home.

      I don’t throw away the gift cards, of course, but it genuinely means a lot more to me when I get a hand-written card from one of my kids (especially if it’s not accompanying money).

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      BBQ place I go to asks for tips at the checkout counter where you order food and pay. Then you get a number. They bring your food out and bus the table when you’re done. But that’s it. You get your own drink, condiments, cutlery.

      I cannot for the life of me figure out why I would tip before any service is rendered and there’s no way to tip after.

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        Ridiculous. I wouldn’t feel comfortable eating there. I get it, it’s supposed to guarantee a tip for your server, but that’s breaking the tipping social contract. I don’t know if your server is actually good at their job. Not only that, but it doesn’t sound like you ever receive service in this place.

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          They aren’t servers… It’s just kitchen staff / cashiers that walk around every few minutes. At least they’re making more than $3/hr. But yeah… I don’t really call that service. The food got insanely expensive about a year ago too, so I stopped going there.

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    I think the only people who can be defensible over American style tipping in this day and age are people with an uncommon degree of wealth and are patrons of specialty boutiques who likely never frequent places operated by your average wage earner.

    So you know, wine country vegan artisan type shit. The $800 dollar hair salon appointment holders. The $60 dollar tequila shot buyer.

    And while they can be defensible over their tipping, it often is the case they themselves are not defensible in their economic participation.

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      I’d say that when you buy overpriced shit you’re especially exempt from tipping, since you already tipped through the ridiculous markup.

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    I dont eat at resturants and I dont cut my hair so the only people I tip are tow truck drivers.

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        I had a $20 to the korean lady who buzzes my head. The $5 tip for the $15 haircut is easier than navigating change. Keeps the flow moving ao she can just yell next and we’re good.

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        Barbers generally have to rent chairs in salons, so a massive chunk of the fee you pay them goes directly to the salon owner.

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        I’ve never understood tipping your tattoo artist. It’s like tipping your physical therapist.

        You should just make your fees be exactly what you want to make.

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          Many times shops dictate fees. If you are getting tattooed by the owner of the shop, their fee might be exactly what they take home at night, in which case, I don’t feel compelled to tip, but if you were tattooed by one of their artists, I’d tip. They pay the shop owner to work there in many cases.

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            Do you still use 15-20% of the cost, or something more flat-rate? Tipping for tattoos surprised me, because factoring in a tip% can really change how much money I need for a more expensive tattoo, especially when it’s cash only.

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          Yes. Same thing with hair salons. Many tattoo artists are regular working class people who pay money to the shop owner to be able to have a chair/bed to tattoo people on.

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    I don’t tip, ever, even if the service is good. No one tips me at my job regardless how I do it.

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    I am sorry, I am not tipping 2$ for people to turn around and get my coffee from a tap.

    Tipping waiters will be my final compromise with tipping culture. I never order delivery from app because I refuse to be forced to tip the delivery person after being charged delivery fee and serivce fee. I also do not tip countertop worker.

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    In Canada they don’t have a “no tip” option any more, instead you have to click $ or % and put in 0. So what I do is I type in 0000 so they hear four inputs and think they’re getting at least 10$ even though i’m not tipping at all.

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      It should be illegal to not have a clear NO TIP button. I feel like we could easily legislate that if our politicians weren’t all spineless worms

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        We have a housing crisis and their solution is to build more rental properties. Yes, most of our ruling class are landlords, how could you tell??

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    I’ve started giving 1 star review for anyplace that does this. Especially if before I’ve even received my food. Please join me… They use shame and guilt as a weapon. We can also