• teflocarbon@lemmy.world
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    The Verge posted the actual memo that was released, you can find that below and the article here

    Hi Snoos,

    Starting last night, about a thousand subreddits have gone private. We do anticipate many of them will come back by Wednesday, as many have said as much. While we knew this was coming, it is a challenge nevertheless and we have our work cut out for us. A number of Snoos have been working around the clock, adapting to infrastructure strains, engaging with communities, and responding to the myriad of issues related to this blackout. Thank you, team.

    We have not seen any significant revenue impact so far and we will continue to monitor.

    There’s a lot of noise with this one. Among the noisiest we’ve seen. Please know that our teams are on it, and like all blowups on Reddit, this one will pass as well. The most important things we can do right now are stay focused, adapt to challenges, and keep moving forward. We absolutely must ship what we said we would. The only long term solution is improving our product, and in the short term we have a few upcoming critical mod tool launches we need to nail.

    While the two biggest third-party apps, Apollo and RIF, along with a couple others, have said they plan to shut down at the end of the month, we are still in conversation with some of the others. And as I mentioned in my post last week, we will exempt accessibility-focused apps and so far have agreements with RedReader and Dystopia.

    I am sorry to say this, but please be mindful of wearing Reddit gear in public. Some folks are really upset, and we don’t want you to be the object of their frustrations.

    Again, we’ll get through it. Thank you to all of you for helping us do so.

    To me, this looks like it was absolutely destined for a public release/intended leak. The victimisation says it all with them crying that their employees are going to get attacked. This is a simply absurd statement.

    Any indicated statement from a CEO of a community forum that insinuates that their users, who are currently undergoing a completely peaceful protest, are in fact, volatile enough to attack employees simply doing their job has completely lost the plot. Their position as CEO is completely untenable.

    Thanks Reddit for throwing extra wood on the fire. I was getting concerned that it wasn’t raging enough.

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      Thanks for posting! This is wild. Internals are probably a disaster, to say the least.

      like all blowups on Reddit, this one will pass as well’

      I hate this part so much. Corporate overlords be gone!

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        He’s saying “we don’t need to listen to the community, they’ll get over it”. Again, completely tone deaf.

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      Oh boy, I hope this statement pisses off a lot of people and motivates them to extend the blackout. My only criticism of the blackout was that there was an end date, Reddit only has to wait it out temporarily in that case, but idk this statement is kinda ridiculous. I hope people take it as the spit in the face it is, who tf is getting violent over subreddits going private? no one, extend the blackout!

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      Does the man not realize the absolute exodus the users are trying to warn him about? Blow over? Reddit will die overnight once people can’t use their favorite third party apps anymore, or browse their porn subs.

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        I know the 80/20 rule, and that a big chunk of that 20 uses apps, but I’m not convinced. I thought the same thing about twitter when they killed off third party apps, and I ended up being the only one in my circle who moved to mastodon.

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          Twitter’s first party app was never as hated as reddit’s, was it?

          On twitter you follow people, on reddit, you follow subjects. The latter you can move to another platform, even with just partial user migration. The former, not so much.

          When you are held by your connection to other users, you’re a lot more stuck to a platform. Reddit doesn’t have that nearly to the same extent. I feel that’s one of the critical mistakes the guy at the top is making.

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      I am sorry to say this, but please be mindful of wearing Reddit gear in public. Some folks are really upset, and we don’t want you to be the object of their frustrations.

      Uh yeah, if you have to tell your staff not to wear their otherwise innocuously branded clothing for fear of getting the shit kicked out of them … you might just be the problem here.

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    He used rhetoric that any terrible leader would use. The threat of violence is to separate them from us. We see it play out with all our favorite narcissists that run business and our country. Glad I blocked them.

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    Go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all this to blow over!

    I can’t wait to see how this all pans out. Will we see a “we listened” grovelling non-apology once they realise their core users are gone?

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    I mean to be honest there’s a good chance he’s not wrong. I really hope it won’t and they will reconsider their decisions but knowing the majority of people this will last for about a week, there is still a decent amount of people who do use the official app and there are a lot of subs that, even if they’re part of this black out now, will go up again because a big part their community did not take this situation seriously at all and felt like it’s just outrage culture thing or just a temp solidarity thing. Even if it will blow over reddit will never be the same for sure, but it still might be profitable enough to keep it running the way it is. Hope that im wrong though.

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    Cool. I was going to hold out hope that something might change. But I’ve just deleted my account of 12+ years.

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    Sadly, I don’t think he’s wrong. It’s quite easy to see how:

    1. A lot of people currently on Lemmy still have a pretty big addiction to reddit - I’ve seen a lot of threads about how they instinctually pull up reddit
    2. This is still a vocal minority. There were some statistics (I unfortunately can’t pull up the numbers - I think I saw them on a subreddit that has gone private), where the number of people using third party applications was an extremely small number that probably won’t move the needle for them revenue-wise.

    That being said, I personally have been enjoying the discussions being had on Lemmy. It seems to prompt for better discussion, since it appears that most people here are more tech-adept and willing to go through growing pains. I’ll likely stick around, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the number of active users here drops once this blackout ends. Still hoping for a change.

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      Eh. I did open reddit by accident a two times today myself, idly tapping the Relay icon and swiping it away on the loading screen.

      But… I’ve also nuked my post history on all of my alts. My main account was a contributor on some tech subs where, while I abhor reddit making money off my freely given contributions, I also abhor the wanton destruction of freely exchanged information at a cultural level.

      I’m considering how I could spare those posts and nuke the rest while I figure how to rehost that content elsewhere. Then again, I got that same info from somewhere else, and those sites still work so maybe the argument is academic.

      Even I don’t know what I’m about to do yet. Interesting times, indeed.

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    You know what, even if it does and everyone goes back. I will be continuing to hang out here I like this community and it’s worth keeping this going regardless!

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    I hope he’s wrong, but I’m pretty sure he’s right. 2 days isn’t going to change anything, elpecially if he’s willing to lie about everything.

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    Realistically, it will. What’s left behind depends on the mods and users. Reddit isn’t going away that easily. Time will show impact