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Einar@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

France passes bill to allow police to remotely activate phone camera and microphone to spy on people

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France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone, spy on people
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A bill that would allow police in France to spy on suspects by remotely activating cameras, microphone including GPS of their phones has been passed.
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  • Candelestine@lemmy.world
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    … wtf is going on over there… What kind of douchebags did you guys elect? I mean, I’m American, I know I can’t throw stones here, but y’alls were better than that. You like, wisely stood against our 9/11 invasion and we probably should’ve listened.

    But, wtf?

    btw, if anyone was too lazy to dig, this publication is a nigerian newspaper that actually seems legit. Founded in 2020, so pretty new still. Looking at their front page they mostly just do local reporting. Has had run-ins with local power.

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      You know that America just… does this, right? No bill, no law… In fact it was the first to do this at all. It’s why in crime shows they remove the battery (from phone where you still can, of course.)

      • SheeEttin@lemmy.world
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        No, the “Patriot” Act did authorize stuff like this in the US. There was also the “Freedom” Act, and generally this is all FISA stuff that has very low standards for what’s allowed.

      • AreYouNotEntertained@lemmy.world
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        It is not legal for police to spy on citizens via their phone cameras in the US…

        • foggenbooty@lemmy.world
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          Police, no. Homeland security? crickets

          • pips@lemmy.film
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            Still no. Do they do it anyway? Probably, but that doesn’t make it legal.

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              If I do something, people find out about it, and I don’t get arrested, it’s defacto legal

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              are they gonna get in trouble for doing it, even if the government finds out?

              probably not, so it’s practically legal; and that’s kind of the only kind of legality that matters in this case

      • angrylittlekitty@lemmy.one
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        The movie citizen four did an excellent job detailing different ways a government (in this case the united states) can do this.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenfour

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        It would require a warrant signed by a judge with probable cause.

        Wiretap warrants aren’t easy.

        • MrPozor@discuss.tchncs.de
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          It will be like that in France as well. But once they have the tools, there will be abuse.

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          Sorry for the late response, but remind me again how many warrants the FISA court has denied?

          That’s an approval rate of 99.97%

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      I mean, I’m American, I know I can’t throw stones here

      Right? I’m wary of chastising any first world country at the moment. The past 7 years in particular have been especially WTF

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    Wouldn’t this breach multiple EU privacy laws?

    • Awthatsnotright@lemmy.world
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      This is what I’m wondering.

    • Figaro2x@lemmy.world
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      There are exceptions for law enforcement/intelligence in GDPR. Those are particularly broad in the UK data protection act for example.

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    This will definitely not be misused by anyone in the government. How on the earth did such blatantly dystopian law get passed?

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      Macron is a NATO puppet.

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        Removed by mod

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          Except that not really, France could easily have another revolution when things like this happen. NATO doesn’t want any revolutions because the workers would have more power, they want corporation to hold power and wealth, as they can be controlled and sanctioned more easily.

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    How to make your country burn faster 101

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    It’s almost like Macron wants to be decapitated.

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    The article does not mention, how will this be achieved technology wise? I don’t know of any universal way that a government might activate these features on a person’s phone. Unless network operators/phone manufacturers start installing backdoors. This does not bode well.

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      Cell carriers can already push apps to your device.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthickey/2014/12/01/carriers-can-now-install-apps-on-android-handsets-without-customers-permission/?sh=2f169ccc5dde

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        I assume/hope this isn’t true if you bought the phone outside a contract?

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          If you have a cell plan, they can push to your SIM.

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    • Raphael@lemmy.world
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      Ohhh my sweet summer child. Who is it that is making those phones?

      Let me tell you, it’s Google.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    While people in the west have been smugly pointing fingers at China, their own governments did everything they’ve been denouncing in China and worse. Congratulations.

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    1984 - George Orwell tried to warn us.

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    The Patriot Act took care of that for us in the US!

  • Shameless Genius@lemmy.world
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    Privacy and anonymity is illusion.

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    LIberté, Egalité, Fraternité.

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    France always was a weird country

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    Is this a legitimate source of news?

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      It’s based on a syndicated news release from Agence France Presse. Here’s a direct transcription of the article from AFP: https://www.barrons.com/news/france-set-to-allow-police-to-spy-through-phones-b21f1f21

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    that’d be the point I’d forgo smartphones entirely

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    French police about to see a whole lotta dick pics.

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