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    9 months ago

    I hate when people say “oh we had 100% growth!” Ignoring the fact they went from 4 to 8 clients. Meanwhile the one that only shows 0.5% growth considers 8 people a rounding error.

    There’s liars, damn liars and statisticians.

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      Okay, so here’s some more easily interpreted numbers. In addition to having the largest change in traffic share relative to its previous share, Linux actually had the largest change in actual traffic share. It was just BARELY above Mac OS. If more significant digits were allowed here, Linux rose 0.0085 while Mac OS rose 0.0082.

      OS 2023 Share 2022 Share Share Change
      Windows 0.632 0.647 -0.015
      Mac OS 0.292 0.284 0.008
      Linux 0.036 0.027 0.009
      Chrome Book 0.029 0.026 0.003
      Other 0.011 Unknown* 0.005*

      2022 percentages computed as:

      share_2022 = share_2023 / ( 1 + relative_percent_change )
      

      and percent change computed as:

      absolute_percent_change = share_2023 - share_2022
      

      * The relative percent change for “other” is not reported in the graphic. There is a remainder of 0.005 in the Share Change which is, presumably, attributable to change in the “other” category.

      Last year’s results

      I just found last year’s results. It looks like my math bears out, though it appears that they rounded differently.

      Notably, last year’s changes were very different.

      OS 2022 Share 2021 Share Share Change
      Windows 0.647 0.646 0.001
      Mac OS 0.284 0.273 0.011
      Linux 0.028 0.028 0.000**
      Chrome Book 0.025 0.025 0.000**
      Other 0.011 Unknown*** 0.015***

      ** Linux and Chrome Book’s absolute change was less than 0.0005.

      *** As with 2023, the percentage change for “other” is not reported in the graphic. There is a remainder of 0.012 in the Share Change which is, presumably, attributable to change in the “other” category. This seems large, though, given that the total traffic share for “other” is only 0.016. That would imply a change from 0.001 to 0.012. Looking at the 2021 numbers this doesn’t appear to be correct.

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    9 months ago

    Is it that Linux is getting popular, or that most people don’t buy new computers anymore now that their phone does everything they used it for, so it’s only the enthusiasts still buying?

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      9 months ago

      That’s an interesting thought. I’ve wondered this about Chrome’s market share in browsers too. How much of it is just that so much traffic is now from phones where, even if you have another browser installed, apps open links in embedded Chrome web views.

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    Do we really want to be bigger anyway? I kind of like where Linux as a desktop isn’t really big enough for all the scammers and malware makers to care.

    (And I know it’s huge for servers and malware also targets that, but they are usually maintained by professionals, not your parents that would probably run every shell script they are offered as help)

    If Linux would become the biggest desktop os you are going to find so much more bad advice whenever searching for help online. I wonder if the nice people we have now are really ready for when the terrible people invade the community.

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      Perhaps a little lesd nice for those of us already using linux, but definitely better for the majority of people for getting less scammed by big corps. But one plus for us would be better support for apps and games that are still mostly or exclusively on other OSes.

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      So many distros, getting bigger overall with maybe one popular linux distro doesnt have the issue when there are so alternatives.

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      Do we really want to be bigger anyway?

      YES. It needs more market share to influence companies financially to make products for it.

      It’s truly starting to make inroads recently, but it still has a ways to go.

      I kind of like where Linux as a desktop isn’t really big enough for all the scammers and malware makers to care.

      It’s also not big enough for gaming companies to truly care, unfortunately.

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        Thankfully valve does, linux gaming’s gotten to a really great state in the last few years.

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    9 months ago

    I’m actually looking into buying a new laptop and seriously considering choosing some Linux distro as my new OS (I’ve always used Windows before, and Mac once for work)

    How do y’all recommend which laptop I should choose?

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      Whatever you do, pick one that ships with Linux or is at least explicitly marked as compatible.

      You do not want the headache of having a laptop with this one component that genuinely doesn’t work properly. Most will work, but for example fingerprint scanners are a very touchy subject. My freakin battery is not properly recognized by anything that isn’t Windows. It’s stupid, some just don’t care about existing, well defined, open standards.

      Personally I’d go with a Framework laptop. Otherwise Tuxedo or System76 might have something you like.

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        Tuxedo is great. Beautiful devices. I’ve been asked about this ramdomly 2-3 times by people along the lines of “wow, that’s a nice laptop, where did you get that?”. Component upgrades also at decent prices.

        Linux compatibility though… Good, if you use one of their preinstalled/supported options, but can be a pain otherwise. I installed debian and still haven’t figured out all problems with sleep/hibernation mode. The tool they offer is some bloaty node js crap that doesn’t work well.

        Other than that, I think if you buy any laptop that is maybe 2 years old you should be good. Best way to check is maybe to Google the model + Linux and see how others experienced it.

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      Get a Slimbook. They’re good laptops, and they let you choose which Linux distro is installed out the box.

      There’s even a KDE version if their Plasma desktop environment is your cup of tea.

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    6.5% of all desktop users is insane

    What’s other? Freebsd?

    What about the streaming share? Like, who is watching the most?