• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    SpaceX and starlink are dead in the water and utterly useless until Musk has them taken away. As long as he’s running those, they’re just shitty companies with lots of empty promises

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      11 months ago

      I wouldn’t say they’re quite dead in the water but he definitely has plenty of power to enshitify them.

      He already shut off the Ukraine from starlink when he felt like it.

      Tit for tat Disney and Tesla.

      If he fucks with SpaceX though, NASA can just stop dealing with them. They would go real quick from being profitable to begging for people to use their service.

      If he starts getting a lot of back pressure from the EU and US on what he can launch, I can put a serious dent in his wallet.

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        11 months ago

        “when he felt like it” isn’t exactly correct, he specifically didn’t allow them to use starlink to launch attacks on Russia, as it was meant to be used only for defense.

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          11 months ago

          I mean, if you’re being invaded, doesn’t anything you do to fight back count as “defense”?

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          11 months ago

          The problem is, none of us have real knowledge about what happened there. All we have is conjecture and/or propaganda.

          It’s equally reasonably possible that he has ties in Russia.

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          11 months ago

          Not necessarily SpaceX but they needed something.

          The problem with NASA is that the funding waxes and wains with the administrations, as does the demands of the administrations to give them the money.

          If something takes more than 8 years to happen chances are the project never comes to fruition. NASA has really slowed down in development in recent decades.

          Not all the innovation SpaceX is doing is really warranted, though most of it’s kind of cool. But they are investing in research and development in places that NASA simply can’t get to.

          Starlink is just a way for spacex to capitalize on that research and development. They are their own sister company customer.

          That said they can all turn into dog shit in a matter of months if somebody got a stick up their butt

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      11 months ago

      SpaceX has Musk handlers to keep Musk away from SpaceX.

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        11 months ago

        The mars thing is really a small part of what they do, although it gets the press. They are pretty much the only real game in town for satellite launches, and, I think ISS transport (especially since Soyez is Russian and there’s not a lot of good will going on there…). Even Amazon uses them for launches. It’s approaching monopoly status for critical infrastructure (we’re very dependant on satellites as a society now).

        Mars is a labour of love for future ambition, but it’s not the main show.

        Whether the root cause is historically poor NASA funding or not (I think there’s a strong argument for competition and private sector IF it’s properly governed, but it never is…), the fact is that we’ve created a situation where vast amounts of geopolitical control rest with a single person.