Intel CEO laments Nvidia’s ‘extraordinarily lucky’ AI dominance, claims it coulda-woulda-shoulda have been Intel::Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger has taken a shot at his main rival in high performance computing, dismissing Nvidia’s success in providing GPUs for AI modelling as “extraordinarily lucky.” Gels
I think it’s shorter to name the things Intel did strike gold on than the boats they missed despite all kinda of advantages.
They missed the entire mobile market processor explosion, inevitable as it was since 2009 with Android launch(or 2007 if you want to say they should have seen what Apple was doing and thought they could compete, which if you’re an exec at Intel you should have).
They missed cloud computing.
Classic “big company hires/keeps overpaid check drawers instead of those with finger on the pulse”. Intel deserves the very little innovation, success and relevancy theyve had post 86.
Bought my first AMD computer this year, an and 6800 Ryzen 7 with an on proc 680m gpu that is equivalent of ~ Nvidia 2050 discrete card. Game over for Intel.
While the rest of your post is logical, this is insane cope. No one is buying integrated graphics for gaming. 2050s are a joke in terms of power - you’re talking about a 2 year old budget mobile gpu… If anything this is basically a “I need to do some photoshop but don’t want a dedicated gpu on my laptop” type card. Intel has never given a fuck about mobile graphics. Their offerings have always been “serviceable, but get a real gpu if you want one”. Laptops are arguably better with ARM so there’s competition there…
Intel is still selling their bread and butter and still has a huge stranglehold on their core market. Claiming “game over” because of an off case of an offshoot of one of their secondary markets is hugely overreacting.
Plenty of people game on integrated graphics and a 2050 is damn powerful for an integrated card. Not everyone is a hyper nerd who builds their own PC or pays big bucks for a good gaming laptop. There are tons of casual players using integrated GPUs
Of course they still have a stranglehold on computer CPUs, the point is they haven’t done anything with that for 30 years. Their bread and butter is an ever lower margin game in PCs that have largely peaked; they missed mobile phones and are set to miss whatever comes next with ARM.
My purchase of a laptop without their proc isn’t even a drop in the ocean, but the point is that the only market they do have they can’t even dominate any more, just keep shipping manually faster CPUs once a year, just like they have been for the past 15.
Yeah, exactly. My disagreement is… So fucking what?
I’m much happier with a company that is satisfied with its market, does what it does well, and leaves it at that. I’m not a believer of “more money for the money gods, ever increasing profits, let’s fuck over some more consumers and further line the shareholders pockets”.
By moving into other markets, they’d be competing with people who know those spaces well and probably better than they do. If they push someone else out, that’s more specialties lost.
I’m generally against this monopolistic machine mindset everyone has these days. I’m much happier with a content company continuing to do what it does, instead of taking up market space trying to do something else that someone else does.
Not that Intel is a perfect example here, but I’m much happier that their GPUs have generally flopped, they haven’t made it in mobile, and they aren’t trying to be another ARM manufacturer. That’s not their thing. So I can continue to go to them for a reliable desktop CPU and they can continue being a force in that market instead of trying to wear 17 different hats and losing their way.
Intel’s mobile on proc gpu does beat AMDs, though.
Since 6/7 series Ryzen in the last 1-2 years?
Yes. Their newest slightly outperforms AMDs
Not really. It did for one generation, against AMD’s ancient Vega iGPU, if you ignore that ~30% of games were buggy or straight up don’t even work on Intel iGPUs.
Apparently latest Arc iGPUs are quite competitive.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/intel-shows-first-integrated-arc-gpu-benchmarks-for-meteor-lake-up-to-twice-the-graphics-performance-compared-to-i7-1370p
Meteor lake isn’t even out yet, so I wasn’t counting that. By the time it comes out, the 7840U will be 9 months old and about to be replaced.
Plus tbh I’m hesitant believing Intel benchmarks. In the past I’ve seen them do things like using much higher memory speeds for their own chips, which for an iGPU is critical.