Google search failed to even find a hollywood movie, even after 1 hour of attempts. I don’t really care about the movie, but I am terrified by the prospect that google now ceased to function on this basic level. Why is this happening?

I understand the explanations of seo and other stuff like spam content. But why are there NO relevant results at all.

I wouldn’t mind having to start wading through results at page 2 or even 10 but now it utterly fails to find even the most basic things.

Things you found on the first attempt even just a year ago. Now they are effectively hidden.

To me functionally the entire internet has now vanished. I cannot access anything that I am searching for. Might as well not exist at all.

Has anybody found a way around this?

Is this on purpose? Is this an attack on the free internet, herding people to just the top 5 sites like facebook, youtube, tiktok, and so forth?

Are there search engines that still work?

  • Deftdrummer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    36
    ·
    1 year ago

    This is why

    The long and short of it - Google search was designed at a time when the web was in its infancy. Basically just text and a few images.

    Fast forward to today, and reddit is the only one that still allows its data to be crawled.

    As media has become more social (basically all of it) the walled gardens prevent you from even viewing content without an account.

    Every platform wants you to be searching inside their service.

    Google is useless.

    • Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      1 year ago

      What’s upsetting to me is how many communities that have moved to discord and there’s no centralized way to search for content in there. Black hole of ethereal content

      • tslnox@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        And the Discord search is total garbage. There’s no way (I know of, and I’ve tried to search for it) to search for the exact term. No parentheses, no plus signs or whatever. So you try to search one term, but the results come back full of terms that are similar but not the same.

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      1 year ago

      It’s not the crawling that is the issue. Facebook for example shows up just fine on search results, you just need an account to view the content on FB if it isn’t public. User privacy settings also shield content. Google has actively and willingly destroyed its utility as a search engine by placing revenue sites/preferred results ahead of actual search results. What they want you to $ee comes first, and if social media like facebook isn’t profitable to google, you don’t get to see it. I did a quick search for “facebook car groups” and got a page full of them, so you absolutely can get those walled gardens in results.

      • Russty@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        Facebook shows up, but do any of the conversations with meaningful information show up in a search?

        Unfortunately I think this will get worse over time as databases of text and video are extremely useful for LLM training, and locking them down makes sense if you look at them as an asset that can be licensed.

    • lad@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      On a related note, internal search sites implemented is usually a horrible abomination unable to find anything remotely relevant to the search. Bonus points if it doesn’t allow exact search in some cases or at all; even if you know the specific text you search for, you’ll go through hell to find it

      Edit: better wording for exact search