• rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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    11 months ago

    Come on, Israel is itself already almost anti-Semitic. They have that picture of the reborn Hebrew nation, and actual history and culture and language of really existing Jewish communities and groups they care about only when that serves that goal. If those communities and groups are underrepresented in Israel itself - may even be hostility.

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      11 months ago

      They are antisemitic; the Palestinians they’re exterminating are semites. Zionism as a movement is steeped in antisemitism; a lot of literal nazis were strongly in favor of it and that’s coming from a group who genuinely wanted them all dead. That should tell you something.

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        11 months ago

        I agree in the sense that emotionally Israelis communicate contempt, scorn, disdain for weakness and all such things.

        Which is also why talking about Yiddish culture with someone from Israel is kinda hard. Taking an interest in it means putting yourself on a different place emotionally.

        It’s understandable to not be pleased putting yourself on a place of a community which has been treated as a lower caste for centuries, spoke a jargon of the language of surrounding Christians which would treat it as such, and is associated most of all with being victimized.

        But allowing that to prevail means being really insecure as a society.

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      that picture of the reborn Hebrew nation

      The what? EDIT Oh you mean like, the way they sort of imposed their own European-Hebrew onto local Semitic people.

      Also, I know Israel is certainly racist, with mostly white faces in high places. Their colorismo is basically the same as Latin America - in fact there’s a very interesting history of technological and cultural exchange between racist Latin American dictatorships and the Israeli state.

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        11 months ago

        Well, you know, the resurrection of the Hebrew language after a couple centuries (EDIT: late to fix it, I meant millennia, but was frankly already drunk to notice) it was dead.

        There were and are neo-Aramaic (language closest to Hebrew, only it never died) speaking Jews in the world and in Israel, but making that the official language wasn’t sufficiently epic and those were, as you correctly pointed out, brown people for Zionist leaders back then.

        They love Masada story so much (its defenders spoke Aramaic), openly do that re-Judaification of Jerusalem etc.

        I mean, I don’t understand why you’re surprised.