Why can’t we have federated identity to login into fediverse instead of creating login for each instance?

  • TriStar@lemmyfly.org
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    1 year ago

    Please tell me you haven’t been creating accounts on every instace. You can register on one instance then use that account to interact with content and communities on all other instances.

    • mango_master@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      No, but some people are discussing about creating new logins, so I want to clarify. Thanks for the clarification.

    • Candelestine@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Some people do make this mistake, I’ve seen a thread or two asking about it after they already started. We’ll need a proper solution eventually, likely education/tutorial-based.

      • Zarxrax@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Literally every single explanation of Lemmy or fediverse that I have seen makes this really clear. I don’t understand where people would get the idea that you have to sign up to every site.

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          It is really clear until a newb tries to use it:

          • Someone gives you a link, or you find it in search
          • You click on the link, because that’s what you do with links
          • It takes you to what you are looking for, but it says you have to log in to comment or vote
          • You log in so you can comment or vote

          The UX for interacting with off-instance subs is abysmal. What is even worse is that as far as I can tell, there is no way to link a post or comment that is instance relative / instance independent.

        • Trapping5341@lemmy.world
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          Because when you click a link out of link Google or something you try to login and it says your login doesn’t work. To actually view that page properly you have to copy the link go you home instance and search it again then go to the post and then you can interact with it. Some people either A. don’t realize that or B. Don’t understand that’s how it all functions. It confused the shit out of me for the first couple days but I just didn’t care enough to create a new account because my account “should” have worked there I just didn’t know how to make that happen.

          • Cordoro@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            The process to open a link on your home instance is just way too complicated right now. Some sort of browser presence could help redirect users to the right places.

            • Trapping5341@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              Agreed I haven’t spent much time using Lemmy on an app but I’m hoping those can make it easier somehow atleast for mobile users.

            • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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              1 year ago

              Some sort of browser presence

              It seems like it could be as easy as a redirect in Apache/nginx so that local-format links are laundered through.

        • Ste@programming.dev
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          1 year ago

          And now we know how the Fediverse got all that users in the last period 😆

      • wolfcatreader@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        As a newb to Fediverse, I agree because it is ambiguous how to use one account for several instances. I’ve browsed the web for several hours. But I only found out that the above is not a one-size-fits-all because some instances require registration.

        Also, saying that an account can be created to access communities in my experience, implies I can only see and minimally interact on those instances. But I cannot go as far as posting anything because as I previously stated, I need an account on the said instance to do that.

        I see the Fediverse being an umbrella of apps/services. However, from my experience, they’re not synchronized. More like silos.

        • Candelestine@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Yeah, it’s a bit of an issue, there’s a lot of concepts that can get subtly mis-communicated. I wrote this awhile ago, as I felt it helps navigate more intuitively when you have a full top-level view of the whole idea in the first place:

          https://lemmy.world/post/527260

    • teolan@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Yes but it’s a bit of a mess to interact with lemmy from a Mastodon account though.

    • TimewornTraveler@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      No some communities need a new login. lemmy NSFW has no content without it. th there’s the issue of having a slow instance like world vs another instance

      • sunaurus@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        You don’t need a new a account for this, just make sure you have “Show NSFW” enabled in your profile.

        • dingus@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Not exactly because some instances defederate other instances. I’m pretty sure lemmynsfw is defederated by some instances (like Beehaw I think??), meaning you’d need an account on another instance in order to most properly view and participate.

            • dingus@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              You’re right. I’m not sure why I thought they were. I wonder if they were temporarily at some point??? Or maybe I am just having a massive brain fart.

              • ultranaut@lemmy.world
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                1 year ago

                You might be thinking of lemmygrad or lemmyworld, there’s a lot of lemmynames around these days :)

      • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Also it’s kinda practical to have an alt for lemmynsfw since account activity is openly available

      • syl@programming.dev
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        Others have already said, but I will reinterate:

        You have to go to your account settings and enable “Show NSFW”. It is off by default.

        • TimewornTraveler@lemmy.world
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          Nah, it’s been enabled, it’s literally just that instance that wont show anything without an account on their instance.

          Unless you mean the setting for my *.world account can be on everywhere else but OFF on the *nsfw instance alone??

      • funkless@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        this is the sturm and drang of every collaborative work I guess. Those led by a single person / company will produce a more streamlined but restrictive product. Those led by committee produce a more chaotic but free experience.

      • Uggro@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        From my understanding, yes. You can also follow Lemmy communities on mastodon and have their posts show up in your feed. @fediverse@lemmy.world I believe that’s the right format? Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I’m wrong.

        • thejoker8814@lemmy.world
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          Yes, you can. See my post I made on lemmy.world - showing up in the feed of @fediverse@lemmy.world using my mastodon.social account (in the mastodon app). For that to work you have to have the community address and look for it via the search on the mastodon instance.

          Screenshot is made in the mastodon instance.

    • iopq@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I registered on a bunch and they all went down except for the biggest ones