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      Yes. In fact, it got me a lot of attention. I got into a bunch of newspapers, interviewed on NPR, etc. Then my audience started drifting away and on to the next thing… and then YouTube decided to monetize. My account was monetized for a while. I made a grand total of $100 before it was demonetized again.

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          My big hit was “The Skeletor Show.” It’s still on YouTube. But I did many other things on the account before deciding I didn’t feel like making comedy videos anymore a few years ago. Occasionally people post asking me to please come back, but I don’t know that I ever will.

          I will say that it did get me some jobs when I needed work, which was the original goal of the show anyway.

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      There’s still plenty of people doing that. But their uploads will be inconsistent when they upload and quality. The views will also be low so YouTube’s algorithm won’t recommend it unless they pay to advertise.

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        My YouTube recommendation page is full of channels with sub 100 subscribers. Because I actually watch them since I find those videos engaging for different reasons. If you actually watch small YouTube channels YouTube is more than happy to serve those channels to you.

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          I do get sub 1000 view recommendations from YouTube but I don’t know if I would assume those creators haven’t paid any money. You can pay to push your videos to a small, very targeted, audience for fairly cheap.

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            That’s a fair point, however with a good bit of the videos recommend to me I highly doubt they are paying for exposure. Many don’t have the absolute basic skills when it comes to cinematography. Personally I enjoy watching random non professionals show their interests. But I don’t think they are paying to show their videos to people like me.

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      I’m ok with it. Im just not going to give up remote work and don’t want to live in Austin or Silicon Valley.

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    No matter what, the amount of money, contests, and just absolute overindulgence capable by Mr Beast is insane in any functioning society. The disparity is so bad these influencers and people with money swoop in, gift people egregious and lavish gifts are rewards for contests, and use that to further enrich themselves through monetized channels. Its sickening to watch. This shouldn’t be reality.

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      The comments replying seem to ignore one of the key aspects of your opinion. It’s about Mr Beast getting his name and face on every interaction. If the networks shoved “WERE GONNA BLOW UP THIS LABORGHINI BECAUSE CBS!” “WERE GONNA FEED THIS HOMELESS DUDE! CBS! CBS!” ad nauseam it would be a different animal, but somehow ostentatious displays of consumption and self-promotion are acceptable for some.

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        My main point is, you motherfuckers want to help? Money = free speech right now. Money is law. Use that fucken shit to sway laws. Start locally. They don’t want to help. They want to play saint lottery for instant good boy points while solving nothing. Its disgusting. May they all feast on each other at the table in hell.

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        Suddenly it’s 1960.

        Microsoft, Apple, Amazon and Google have replaced ABC, NBC, PBS and CBS.

        Your “personal computer internet appliance” is a black-box running rented software, just like in the ‘dumb-terminal time-sharing’ era.

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      For sure but Mr. Beast doesn’t actually keep any of the money for himself.

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    They can have him, I’m sick of seeing him show up in thumbnails on youtube.

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    Why is it people who hoard wealth and use that wealth to hoard more wealth by fucking as many people as possible always get this dismissive “eh of course they do shrug,” - but as soon as somebody finds wealth and is like “how can I do something useful with this” then uses that wealth to start a food bank and fund water/energy projects for needy communities we gotta spend our day breaking down how they’re evil and sus?

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      Because people who get this rich do it by exploiting the poor. They aren’t going to turn around and be nice. People who get this rich start as absolute shit bags. They remain the same after.

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        … that doesn’t answer the question they asked.

        Did you literally not even manage to read a whole one paragraph comment before responding?

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        My brother in Christ he’s a fucking YouTuber. If you don’t want to be in a video, say no. 🤷

        Of course for all this screeching about exploitation I’d happily put down $50 that says you wouldn’t turn down a free car because you “don’t want to be exploited.”

        Go tell the people in the 21 counties of NC his food pantry travels to that they’re being exploited and see what they think of your hot take. Or are you one of those “feeding people robs them of their bootstraps” types?

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          You can feed people and do good things while exploiting them to further your notoriety and wealth. These are not mutually exclusive. It is perfect acceptable to be turned off or even disgusted by someone shoving a camera into every situation to extract some kind of profit from it along with self-aggrandizement, even if some of those profits are returned to the community that helped generate those profits as a “good deed”.

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            Don’t let ideals get in the way of good. While what you say is true, he could literally help no one if he hadn’t followed this business model. He wouldn’t have the cash. His videos bring in more cash which can help more people. Yes he makes money too but its more distasteful to me to be someone like you who prefers less people get help if someone else profits from it than it is to be someone like him who helps more people than you are and also makes money from it.

            A bit rich for you to be saying his way is wrong when you probably haven’t ponyed up your own cash to help even a fraction of the people. The world you want to exist does not. Everything has a cost. Id rather people do some good in exchange for that cost than wish everyone did everything for free which incentivizes no one to do anything.

            I don’t watch him. His videos don’t really appeal for me but I recognize the good that can be done in such a format.

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              That’s a fat lie for you to say that I prefer people not be helped.

              Where’s your cash dump to the poor?

              You read what you wanted and made the rest up. It is also possible be disgusted with someone’s approach and still understand it helps people.

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            rounds back to original point of how somebody who does literally anything with their wealth gets this huge tirade about how they’re evil but the richer YouTubers and actual billionaires face no real critique.

            It really is weird how a millionaire who runs a food bank and funds various infrastructure projects is more villainous to people than billionaires who play every corporate greed trick in the book, and I’m tired of people acting like it’s not.

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              You’re not wrong. But that doesn’t mean we have to accept relentless self-promotion either. You also forget he’s still gonna be rich, barring financial disaster. Gonna point your finger at him when he’s done with YouTube, sitting in a 10k sq ft mansion with a garage full of exotics? If we want to point fingers I’d be willing to be lt a bunch of those “actual billionaires” engage in a lot of philanthropy without sticking their identity in front of a camera telling you about it at every turn?

              This stuff smacks of evangelical prosperity gospel. Just give me money so I can do the lord’s work and drive to the church in my Lambo, except there’s nobody controlling a gateway to Heaven, just a mention and a shout out to top donors in a video.

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                You didn’t answer my question.

                Why do billionaires who do a fraction of a fraction of what he does get a free pass to actively steal economic activity from their workers and customers because their product isn’t content - but somebody whose business is creating something of value (content) who pays his people reasonably and also does good for people needs to be be taken down at every turn and shat on at every opportunity?

                Corporate apologism at its finest, right here. The only true evil is making money via creating a popular product instead of stealing the economic value of those who create a product for you because you already had all the capital to start with. Infinite corporate greed is good because it’s private, using your money and platform to help people is evil because they do it in the open.

                GTFO

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                  Nobody is giving them a free pass. You’re the only one suggesting that. We’re discussing the weather and you keep jumping in and yelling the sky is blue. No shit, sherlock, but we’re discussing the weather. Don’t you get it? You’re the only person saying that. We’re talking about Mr Beast, and all you keep saying is What about all those other people? I don’t give a shit about them because we’re talking about Mr Beast. You’re the guy that keeps jumping into the conversation and trying to change the subject to make it about something else. You’re nuts or completely live under a rock if you think lemmy/reddit/fediverse doesn’t shit on billionaires regularly, doesn’t discuss wealth inequality, doesn’t point out ostentatious displays of wealth. Do other billionaires get a pass? NO. Now let us continue our discussion without having to be reminded about something we already know.

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      You’ve never heard a positive word about Mr. Beast / Jimmy? I have, quite a lot actually. Maybe you don’t watch the people who interact with him more, idk. He seems like a nice guy who uses his videos to generate revenue that he immediately puts back into making more videos. Like, almost all of it if I understand correctly. All while helping tons of people in the process.

      Also, Musk is desperate for Jimmy’s attention lol. He asked Mr. Beast in a tweet recently why he doesn’t upload his videos on X and basically got the answer “It’s not worth it” lol

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        He was on Lex Friedman’s podcast a while back. Honestly he seemed like a smart guy but I came away feeling like he was pretty cynical about the whole thing. It really did just feel like a neurotically trained intuition about boosting view metrics.

        He did seem like a decent dude I guess. Its hard to tell from those kind of things.

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      Meh, I’ve never watched a video of his, but seems like it’s just a modern day game show/home makeover/dystopian feel-good story sort of thing. Neither good or bad. It’s good that he helps some people, bad that the people and many, many more need help.

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        I agree that it sucks that we need people to help pick up the slack in our social nets and whatnot, but I think it’s unfair that people attack Mr beast for using that YouTube money to help people to make more YouTube money to help more people. Loads of these youtubers rake in more and do jack with it but never face any individual flak, but he does something different and he becomes the poster boy of evil youtuber to people.

        FWIW Beast Philanthropy is a registered 501c3, feeds like over half of NC, and has done alot of disaster relief work in a bunch of states and a handful of countries. I don’t think it’s evil that they shoot some footage in the process and a quick ad read to feed 100% of the revenue from the philanthropy channel back into the 501c3.

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      Look, I hate youtubers more than anybody I know, but if someone was impersonating this guy to prank some kid he’s never met I don’t see how we can expect him to apologize for something he didn’t know about and wasn’t involved in.

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      Disclaimer: I don’t really watch Mr. Beast all that much.

      Mr. Beast’s origin story (apparently) is that he went all in on Bitcoin really early, like so early that when it blew up he became a multi-millionaire (we don’t actually know exactly how much money he got, it could be a lot, it seems like a fuck ton).

      By some grace of God he had a really good influence and decided to use that money for charity, creating a YouTube channel to film that charity and make some money back on his endeavors. He talks a lot now about how he makes so much off of YouTube videos that he can often just break even on the crazy prizes he gives out based on the views he gets.

      Now based on this it seems pretty chill. Mr. Beast made a fuckload of money and is working within the system of capitalism to give it back to some of the most needy (I mean he’s done stuff like traveled to Africa to help install water wells in tiny remote villages, say whatever you want but that’s good charity.)

      The problem is, as other people in this thread pointed out Mr. Beast has done a ton of podcasts talking about his work and it’s pretty clear that he actually thinks that this is how the system is supposed to work, that the only issue is that more rich people aren’t giving away their money like he is and if that happened the system would be working perfectly. That’s a stupid take, and as I mentioned before, I think he only became this charitable as a fluke, he’s an exception to the rule.

      Now I’ll defend him: I think that Mr. Beast gets a lot more hate than he deserves. He’s one of the very few rich people who is truly giving away most of his money to other people (sure, lots of his videos are him giving away money to middle-american white people but that doesn’t even matter that much) he gets hate because he places himself in the spotlight the “controversy around every video” that you point to is a product of this. It’s part of the production and only makes him more famous. Mr. Beast is only a symptom of a disease and directing hate towards him is only done because it’s easy.

      Like I said earlier, he’s an exception to the rule, and the rule is that people this rich don’t engage in any charity nearly this much. It’s bizarre that people focus on the one rich person doing that. Oh wait, it’s not, it’s just a bunch of lugheads falling for the American celebrity worship/attention culture but in reverse.

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        Rich people engaging in charity are just washing their own image. Under the current system, there’s no way to be rich without exploiting the poor. That’s just how the system works. No amount of charity will change that.

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          He literally just explained a way that MrBeast got extremely rich without exploiting the poor. He got into Bitcoin super early, and cashed out at a peak, becoming a multimillionaire overnight. No poor exploitation at all there.

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            Except for the faceless idiots that bought in during one of those peaks and left with big debts. Otherwise, no exploitation anywhere!

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            As the OP, I’d like to mention here that I never said or thought that Bitcoin involves no poor exploitation.

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        My issue with the hate he gets is he seems to get raked over the coals more than people giving away nothing because he’s “exploiting” people to fund it. Im just so sick of people jumping on even slight improvement over the status quo because they expect perfection from anybody trying to do any good. Theres a reason everything is being enshittified. Theres no reason people benefitting from the system have to even slightly improve it because every idealist who probably hasn’t done shit to improve the world will be there waggling their finger.

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      But, he’s trying to manipulate him by inflating view counts? Also, pretty sure musk wants him because he’s a huge creator and it would be good for twitter, not because he can sense he’s bad or whatever. I don’t really care about Mr Beast, never watched his videos, but I’ve heard much more good about him than bad.

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      OMG, thank you! I’ve been saying for years that something is not right about him but I can’t pinpoint why. We will see with time, I guess!

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        Mr. Beast is never off. I’ve never seen a candid picture of him. He’s probably clean, but something’s very fake about him.

        The first project I heard of his was “#TeamSeas”. Which collects donations to dredge trash out of the ocean. Except realistically, that trash is constantly getting replenished. The efforts should have been to reduce plastic waste, either by promoting less consumption or switching all drink bottles to recyclable aluminum. Neither of those look as good on camera as a specialized ship pulling trash out of the ocean and promoting anti consumption probably wouldn’t sit well either his audience or sponsors.

        His viewers mainly consist of people who want to feel charitable vicariously or people fantasizing about about being on the reviving end of his charity. It’s not much different from the people who watch Life Styles of the Rich and Famous.

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          I don’t think that’s the right perspective to have on this, a good action isn’t bad just because It wasn’t the best action possible.

          And the solution you brought upon, would still leave the first problem afloat, “great, we reduced plastic consumption, but who’s going to remove the plastic that is already in there?”, It’s a paradox you see? If he chooses option A, people will burn him at the stake because he didn’t choose option B.

          I was skeptical at first when I first got aware of him, then I did some research and there’s a ton of philanthropy there, lots of people got some help they needed.

          EVEN if it’s done with ulterior motives, the non changing fact is that people indeed were helped.

          Whichever motives he has behind his persona, he has helped more people than most could or would’ve helped in their entire lifetimes.

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            I would follow on from you by saying removing plastic is the better of the options anyway. Good old free will means you can’t force people to choose to use less plastic and alternatives, but you can force yourself to go and do something about it - we can’t even make them use a bloody rubbish bin.

            I mean, how would you even go about it? Lobby governments against organizations with much bigger pockets, advertising campaigns to tell us what we already know, start a political party?? Cleaning beaches already showed what we as people are doing and what we can do.

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            Dredging the ocean can come after we stop putting trash in it. There’s a finite amount of resources for these activities and they should be first directed to the most effective solutions first. He apparently thinks he has enough influence on his audience to direct them to clean up his chocolate bar displays.

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              Dredging the ocean can come after we stop putting trash in it.

              It must be both simultaneously. You don’t ignore a patient with a gunshot wound by telling everyone, “Ignore the dying man until we ban guns!”

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                I’m sick of metaphors.

                By TeamSeas account, they’ve removed 9,286 metric tons of garbage from the ocean since 2021. We collectively put 11,000,000 metric tons into the ocean every year. The Teamseas method of removing one pound of trash for every dollar would require 250 million USD every year. That’s not sustainable for a charity to run on indefinitely.

                We should be switching to biodegradable paper or recyclable aluminum. I’ll have to look closer the next time I’m in a convenience store, but it looks like MrBeast’s chocolate bars are packaged in plastic. We already know how to package chocolate in paper.

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          Except realistically, that trash is constantly getting replenished

          I don’t watch Mr Beast but he’s trying to help unlike everyone else. Yes we should stop dumping plastic in the ocean. But removing what is already there is useful just like cleaning trash on the beach is useful. You don’t walk past litter and say, “No point in picking it up, someone else will just throw more.”

          There are many non profit ocean cleanup organizations.

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            Except, at least where I am, there’s social stigma against littering, so the first problem has been solved. Picking up a bit of litter every now and then is sustainable.

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      To put into perspective just how unimportant Twitter is in the grand scheme of things, Mr Beast’s most popular YouTube video has 40 million more views than Twitter has total monthly active users (500m or so), and 100 million views is frankly a pretty underperforming video for him

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    Isn’t one of Mr. Beast’s friends or employees trans? He’s shown open support for them too. He has a vested interest in not associating with Elon.

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    If MrBeast leaves YouTube I will consider that a win. I am so tired of see his gaping jaw open on my front page for his stupid stunts and his stupid candybars.

    HE’LL BE BACK, THEY ALWAYS COME BACK

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      You know you can set channels to “not interested” and “don’t recommend channel”, right?

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      He has done more for charity and general philanthropy than you ever will.

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        Self-promotion is not charity. And neither is putty porn. It’s just the cost of doing business when you’re your own brand. And philanthropy is a scam promoted by the rich to help justify their wealth hoarding.

        All of it ultimately ends up personally furthering the rich person’s personal goals. It’s all just a way of saying that the rich deserve to determine what society goals should be, and how society should use its limited resources.

        It’s taking control away from the masses, and keeping it in the hands of those with money.

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    Tweet may have been deleted.

    And this is why articles should be using screenshots and not links to tweets.

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    I wonder how well connected and rich Elon is to insulate him from consequences. Many people who have done as idiotic mistakes as he did have gone bankrupt or have been shunned already.

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      He’s not insulated. He has likely lost control of Tesla because he had to sell so many shares to buy Twitter. He’s trying to get more shares in Tesla but they’re probably not going to give him it.