I’ve been working with a Javascript (+ TypeScript) + Java + SQL stack for the last 10 years.

For 2024 I’d like to learn a new programming language, just for fun. I don’t have any particular goals in mind, I just want to learn something new. If I can use it later professionally that’d be cool, but if not that’s okay too.

Requirements:

  • Runs on linux
  • Not interested in languages created by Google or Apple
  • No “joke languages”, please

Thank you very much!

EDIT: I ended up ordering the paperback version of the Rust book. Maybe one day I’ll contribute to the Lemmy code base or something :P Thank you all for the replies!!!

    • NotNotMike@programming.dev
      142·
      10 months ago

      Agreed, as a Java developer you will hopefully find C# familiar but more refined. They share a lot of the same features now, but C# seems to do them all better, in my opinion. Linq especially is just so much more enjoyable for me than Java Streams.

      .NET Core (now just .NET) readily runs on Linux and Visual Studio has a free edition that is superb - an IDE provided by the language developers. Of course, you can always use Visual Studio Code or a third-party offering like Rider (by JetBrains so the transition from Java could be very easy of you are already familiar with their programs).

      My only complaint on C# is that the .NET versioning is a little confusing if you aren’t already familiar. However, that’s only an issue if you work with legacy code. New versions after .NET 5 are all the same naming and upgrading is generally effortless, just changing a single number in your project file and downloading the proper SDK

    • vext01@lemmy.sdf.org
      71·
      10 months ago

      I get the impression OP wants to try something new. Java and C# are pretty similar.

    • Serinus@lemmy.world
      93·
      10 months ago

      Just don’t bring your damn factories over. For some reason Java developers just love unnecessary layers of abstraction and forcing that ridiculous factory pattern.

      And they bring it to any language they develop in after Java.

      If you see someone saying “no Java developers” for a position, this is why. They’ve been trained incorrectly, as a joke.

      • Corngood@lemmy.ml
        27·
        10 months ago

        All the core parts of dotnet (e.g. roslyn) seem to be built that way. I find them very frustrating to work on. Between that and the whole nuget thing being somewhat FOSS unfriendly, I’d steer people away from C#.

        • Serinus@lemmy.world
          6·
          10 months ago

          I don’t get how NuGet is FOSS unfriendly. I mean, at worst you could set up your own repository. All the tools are local. It wouldn’t be difficult to set up your own source if that was absolutely necessary.

          • Corngood@lemmy.ml
            12·
            10 months ago

            The whole thing is built around pulling binary packages from servers, and there’s no consistent way of building those things from source.

            It’s extremely difficult to package anything non-trivial without referencing those binary blobs.

            They had to build this whole custom thing (https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet) just to make the SDK itself buildable from source, and most releases still have some binary dependencies. They only did it for the SDK so it could be packaged in Debian, etc.

    • pathief@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      10 months ago

      In my previous company we had a dot net + Microsoft SQL server stack. The code base was admittedly really really bad but those .NET Web Forms were horrendous to work with. C# in general felt very close to Java at the time, except for the LINQ queries I guess.

      I’m sure that, like PHP, the technology has come a long way and things are better and more modern right now. This was before Nugget was even a thing! Regardless, I feel like those chapters in my life are finished. I’d rather try something actually new to me!