Just subjected my pathfinder group to this
You mean your mum and the goldfish? I don’t know of any other people who play it.
I play with a group now! All you have to do is become forever DM…
I mean… no one can take my physical d&d books or pdfs or miniatures…? I’m sure I could ‘buy’ online copies of stuff but why would anyone?
True, but (a) IIRC, not all 5e books are even available as PDFs, and (b) D&D seems to be leaning towards a service business model. I doubt they’ll get rid of books entirely, but still, Paizo has a more straightforward “buy the thing, own the thing” approach.
I don’t know. I played 3.5 and 5e and I like the 5e rules way more than 3.5. Isn’t PF very close to 3.5?
First edition Pathfinder was very close to 3.5. Many people called it 3.75e.
While some of the D&D bones are still there, Second edition Pathfinder is very much its own thing.
Golarion is also a way more badass setting than Forgotten Realms!
I mean, D&D 5th edition is licensed CC-BY, which is VERY open source.
The base ruleset (SRD) only. Everything else is OGL, which has proven to be as open as
WizardsHasbro wants to make it.Yeah. On the face of it, it’s a good move, but the full story is far worse.
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They “updated” the OGL to be far more restrictive, impose unsustainable fees past a certain level of gross profit, and would grant WotC the full right to use, sell, and even license your work to others, irrevocably.
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They tried to de-authorize the original OGL retroactively, fully against the spirit and practice of the license, using some legal chicanery. While the OGL 1.0a was perpetual, it didn’t use the word irrevocable. (WotC’s rights to your content, of course, were clearly put in irrevocable terms).
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They only moved to CC-BY after public outcry. While the results were good, it was for PR, not out of the goodness of their hearts.
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There’s a new edition coming anyway. Unless they surprise me and put it under CC-BY as well, I’m betting they’ll try again to use a really restrictive license.
Also, even though WotC walked back from de-authorizing the OGL 1.0a, the damage was done. Every publisher I’m aware of that had used it has since moved away from it entirely, with surprisingly little change to the product.
No argument here. I’m a PF2e player since beta and won’t touch HasWizards products with a 10 foot disintegrate.
I will, begrudgingly, when my friends run a game. Playing it is okay, running it is a nightmare, and I really don’t want to spend money on this game.
It’s a shame, because D&D has been a huge part of my life, but nowadays, when I want to play D&D, the best way to do it isn’t to use D&D.
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As D&D stands right now I am fine with their model. It just isn’t that important to me that when I am crafting a one shot to sell that I have to slap a picture on the second page saying that I agree Wizards of the Coast owns D&D.
If they go back to that nightmare a year ago I will probably get into Pathfinder
I mean… do you trust that they won’t?
They probably will as soon as they can without significant losses.
No but this is the way the world is going to work. The company is awesome and then it gets shitty. Just got to keep on moving forward. Hopping from success to success.
What happened 1 year ago?
Basically they wanted to make it world of Warcraft
Nothing wrong with playing more DnD but Paizo jas definitely shown they care more about the community than Wizards. All the rules being free online is just absolutely banging and makes for better community built tools than DnD ever had
I’ll stick with old-school DnD thanks
But otherwise sure
