I have noticed that some CAPTCHA pages, like Cloudflare’s, simply ask you to check a box to proceed. There is no clicking on traffic lights or entering characters. How does clicking on a check box tell them I am not a robot?
Its not sure how it exactly works, but most probably this captcha processes a lot of data like your mouse movement, mouse click but also your browser fingerprints, search history and ip. You can actually get ‘traffic lights’ test from this clicking button captacha if You have privacy protection in place, such as using brave, tor, firefox or mullvad browser and/or vpn, pluse some privacy browser extensions
You passed the test before you clicked the checkbox. Your mouse movement, momentary pause, IP address, browsing history, etc, gave away that you’re a human.
Then why do we still need to click it, instead of just loading the page at once?
Because it measures how your mouse moves to the checkbox. If there was nothing to move to, you wouldn’t move your mouse.
I get the checkbox even on mobile sometimes, I imagine as long as you’re not perfectly hitting the center pixel it knows you’re human.
Yeah, that sounds reasonable. Touch input is reported similar to mouse input, so it would translate to a touch screen pretty well.
I don’t think random websites get access to my browser history without me explicitly giving them permission.
They pretty much do if they’re run through something like Cloudflare or they use Google Analytics. That probably covers about 80% of websites. Not the website, but the company that’s running the Captcha.
Why do so many websites use cloudflare? Isn’t the Internet meant to be decentralised and resilient? It’s not so resilient if so much is dependent on the servers of one company.
Browser fingerprinting and borderline Spyware: https://youtu.be/4UuvwY6CdLo?si=EEK_jCqsKY1Osi9S
I suspected this was the case! Like a silly human, I’ve been intentionally “wiggly” with my mouse movements for this very reason, hoping i don’t have to do a harder form of capthca. Haha. Now I only know I’m only a little crazy for doing so.
And, cloudflare creates a proxy (including it’s own SSL certificate by default!) between you and every cloudflare site. So they’re able to see all data, even on https secured pages.
And they make up a huge portion of the Internet 😊
don’t forget about 1.1.1.1, cloudflare’s dns.
Big part of the internet is going through Cloudflare these days, so it tracks you as you browse, and does something clever to figure out if you’re a robot. Google can do the same, they’ll have a cookie on you. If they’re not sure they’ll show you one of those challenges.
Slight tangent, but if you want to pass the “click on all the images with traffic lights” first time, select one that’s obviously wrong then go back and “change your mind” computers don’t do that and 9/10 times it’ll pass you first time!
Given the prevalence of cloudflare they could basically assess the trust level of your ass by cross checking how trusted you are on other services also behind cloudflare. If you aren’t utterly suspicious elsewhere you’re likely not a bad agent.
I have two guesses:
- Low bar just checks that it gets clicked.
- Script on the pages watches mouse movements, etc., and bases its decision on that data.
I’m pretty sure it’s just number 2.
A program will click the box and hit submit instantly. Or it’d move in a perfectly straight line to either the centre of each or the edge of each and click as quickly as possible.
Real human movements are not as precise.
I had read (in a comment here, so take with a grain of salt) that some had started doing Proof of Work.
I.E. they ask the visiting computer to do some math. This is potentially less annoying to people than clicking on traffic lights or typing unreadable text, but could get costly if you’re using bots.
how it block bots?, the bot just do the proof of work too
It doesn’t block them exactly, but it’s trying to make it uneconomical to target the site using bots - if it now takes 1 second to perform the action rather than 1/100th of a second, you now need 100x more bots to achieve the same effect
I used to fail Cloudflare’s capcha constantly until I realized I was clicking too fast lol
I remember a talk about this I watched on YT about this, but I can’t find it now.
But the way it was described to work was that it looked at how you interacted with the page, how you mouse pointer moved, if it moves too straight between interactive points, how randomly it moves, if you are entering text in a field, how slow are you and do you make mistakes, how do you correct those?
Then when you click the tickbox it decides based on all those factors if you are human or if you are a bot.
Those captcha checks on a blank page are probably checking mouse movements, IP, User Agent and more stuff like that to determine it more checks are needed, though it might even be a fake captcha to act like a loading screen
Captchas without a visible challenge use behavioral analysis to differentiate between human users and bots by monitoring mouse movements, keyboard inputs, and other behaviors.
I think Tamago2474 made a video entirely about the evolution of CAPTCHAs. Yes, it even answers your question.
It’s this one in particular.
In non technical terms, some operating systems (eg iOS) will vouch that you are human. Which bypasses the need to click on things.
See https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/iphone/iph4f43a30c9/ios for details of how to turn it off
its checking things like your mouse movement.
