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It is not that surprising, Arabic media has been reporting it for a while. It is just that corporate media in the West is finally catching up to reality.
We’re basically seeing a narrative collapse happening in real time.
Arabic, Latin American, Southeast Asian, Chinese (obviously), Indian (obviously)…
Wait, isn’t this the same map of countries which recognize Palestine?
The true international community
If only someone had warned them
If Russia comes out of this conflict with any gains at all that could be construed as “worth it” for their side it will be an open invitation to keep invasions on the table as a method to apply again in the near future.
Russia is literally the biggest country in the world with massive natural resources and very low population density. The idea that Russia will sacrifice its relatively small population for the sake of additional territorial gains is preposterous.
Maybe I’m wrong here, but I think most people never thought Ukraine would win the war outright. Personally, I’ve never heard anyone say that they thought Ukraine would push Russia out entirely and the war would end. Even if Ukraine did secure all of its land, Russia would almost certainly continue fighting along the border to prevent it from joining any alliance like NATO. It seemed the best anyone hoped for is that there would be enough pressure applied to Russia that something changed within where they gave up on the war.
People, and importantly western leadership, absolutely thought they could force a regime change in Russia when the war started. For example, recall all the whole rouble will be rubble talk. The plan was for the west to isolate Russia economically using sanctions and intimidate other countries to stop trading with Russia. Russian economy was supposed to collapse as a result, and people were gonna overthrow the government.
This is why Europe went all in on the whole thing, they thought they’re gonna ride it out for a few months and then the west would get to put in a compliant regime in Russia like they did in Ukraine. After that, everything would get back to business as usual, and the regime would start selling off Russia to western companies the way Ukraine is currently being sold off.
Of course that’s not how it went, and now we’re seeing a narrative shift because it’s becoming clear that the west failed to break Russia economically. Not only that, but Russia is emerging more assertive and has the backing of the Global South. This is the worst possible outcome for the west, and Europe in particular.
Maybe I’m not doing the best at explaining myself, but my intent was for my comment to say much the same as yours (which I totally agree with). I was just trying to say that I didn’t hear many people who thought Ukraine could actually win a war against Russia through fighting. There was definitely hope that Russia would have a regime change due to the pressure and that would put an end to the war, but that outcome seems more like Russia just ending fighting rather than Ukraine winning. I suppose my comment was moreso just arguing semantics on the word “win” in terms of this conflict, which is ultimately a bit pointless.
Oh yeah, I completely agree with that. The idea was to have Ukraine hold the line while the economic war does the real damage. We’re very much on the same page here.
I agree with everything, except the fact that the outcome is bad for Europe. Would be much worse had western governments reached their goals.
The problem for Europe now is that it’s been effectively cut off from Russian resources. Now that Russia has managed to reorient their trade towards the east, I doubt they’ll want to deal with Europe going forward. Why bother trying to do trade with people who hate you and are constantly trying to undermine you when you can work with friendly partners instead. Any trade with Europe will be seen as being a very risky proposition by Russia unless there’s a dramatic political shift in Europe going forward.
European leaders should’ve realized that it was in their interest to do everything possible to prevent the war from starting in the first place. Yet, they chose to follow Pied Piper right off the cliff instead.
The Republican cowards denying aid needed by Ukraine are entirely to blame.
Sure, blame the Republicans and not the Democrats wasting all their munitions on a middle east genocide.
If you bothered reading the article before making your vapid comments, then you’d see that the aid that republicans are holding up isn’t going to change anything:
The Biden Administration is entirely correct to warn that without further massive U.S. military aid, Ukrainian resistance is likely to collapse this year. But U.S. officials also need to recognize that even if this aid continues, there is no realistic chance of total Ukrainian victory next year, or the year after that. Even if the Ukrainians can build up their forces, Russia can deepen its defenses even more.
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I am not a republican, but sending aid to Ukraine so that more Ukrainians die, is something we shouldnt be doing.
That’s defeatist bullshit that’s only serving the interests of the thug responsible for Russian aggression.
Those are easy words for someone that doesnt have to fight and die in a war that is already lost.
The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom against Russian oppression. We should be helping them, and your defeatism is doing the opposite.
What percent of them are conscripted?
Doesn’t matter that they’re conscripted, they’re invaders and aggressors and they need to be stopped. We should be helping Ukraine, and you’re over here waving the surrender flag.
You said its that they want to fight for their freedom so we should help them. Turns out a large portion of them are forced to fight, they dont want to. How are you okay with giving money to a country so they can fight a war with war slaves?
We should be helping Ukraine
By “we” I assume you mean your government. If you’re in the US your country already backed a fascist coup in 2014 and had been bombing eastern Ukrainians and ethnic Russians like in Donbas and Crimea for resisting. As you’d expect, that meant people in Donbas welcomed the Russian army as liberators in 2022.
Not to mention blocking all negotiations with Russia because the war is profitable for the US MIC.
I wouldn’t exactly call that “helping”
Yes, We should be helping Ukraine, the East Ukraine that has been bombed by West Ukraine since 2014. Did you not see what West Ukraine troops look like? Nazi symbols everywhere.
go sign up and fight for what you believe in
“You wanna go to war? Fine, go die in a war. It’s just like Call of Duty.”
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I’m not apologizing for anything.
So much ruzzia love here. Bad propaganda account.
Did you have an argument or just wanted to say the NPC line?
