First focusing on AI and now this, already cancelled my donations, do we have a good fork to move to?

  • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I’m not planning to move anywhere tbh.

    Mozilla is almost 100% financially dependent on Google right now, if that funding goes away then so will Firefox, the Gecko engine, and likely all the forks. With all the layoffs happening in the industry, we can’t rule out Google shareholders looking elsewhere to cut costs too, such as the massive subsidization of Mozilla. The little we can do is allow Mozilla to find other sources of funding that are optional for users IMO

    Yes, stuff like pocket is garbage. But at least Mozilla allow you to turn it off, which is more than can be said for Google: on Android devices manufacturers have to pay a hefty “fee” just to allow users to remove the Google search bar from the launcher. As a user you can get around this by installing a custom launcher, but as a manufacturer, you will not get Google certification: no SafetyNet (Play Integrity DRM, required by Banking apps), no Widevine, and Google will block GMS & their other apps on your product.

    Regarding AI, mozilla’s memorycache is completely local (runs on the user’s machine) and does not call out to any servers. The new translation feature is the same. The only exception to this that I’m aware of is the AI helper on MDN, but the target audience of that site is already in a position to determine whether that is a useful feature or not.

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      I’m not planning to move anywhere tbh.

      I do. If they go through with it than they’re not much better than Google.

      If they don’t have enough money maybe they could start with cutting the CEO’s pay.

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        I haven’t read through the issue, but so far all of Mozilla’s endeavours into ads have been stellar privacy-wise.

        And their CEO stepped back a few weeks ago. It’s well possible that the intermediary/new CEO won’t get as much payment, because losing them to a competitor will not hurt as badly.

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        this need to start from inside the company, lile the employers timing a walkout of something, other than that everything gonna stay the same

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    That bugzilla page says they targeted version 122 for this change. I have Firefox 122 on my PC and when I look at the about:config page, that setting is still set to False. I think y’all are freaking out about a very small thing.

    If you use Firefox, and you check your about:config page and you see true for that setting, then just change it to false and go about your day.

    Or are we all just talking philosophically about this?

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    I remember the last few versions of Netscape Communicator had a “Shop” button.

    This was the sign that Netscape had lost the browser war and was giving up.

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      I remember the Amazon icon on Ubuntu. It is why I initially gave up on Linux after the first install…like WTF I don’t want Amazon in this new to me OS.

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    Is there a picture of what this actually looks / would look like? Honestly, although it is going down a bad path, it isn’t actually all that surprising. Firefox already has sponsored address bar suggestions by default.

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    If you don’t use the “review checker” feature, which I didn’t know existed until now, you will be unaffected by this change.

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    I really don’t understand where they are going with Mozilla’s new leadership.

    Don’t they already show ads in pinned sites area. Since I am not a regular donor I click on the affiliate amazon link if I am purchasing something to support them. Now I feel like they are taking wrong signal due to this. More advertising enabled by default will make even harder to recommend firefox to new users.

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    Maybe I’m too much of a goof but I haven’t noticed any ads and I haven’t found any way to turn them off either. Is this only in the desktop version or is it also in the mobile version? Normally I just use the mobile version.

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    Interesting… What would people shitting on other browsers for offering OPT-IN ads do now?

    Oh, wait. Mozilla can do no wrong /s

    Nothing to see here.