Maybe Linux mint, I love archlinux as much as the next guy but jumping head first into a glass of water takes practice. Unless you revel in the challenge of jumping in the deep end just so you can learn how to swim like I do!
I’m just glad I chose arch instead of Gentoo. I got plenty of will power to learn something new but waiting hours or even days for a bunch of software to compile was too much for me.
EndeavourOS is as simply installed as Ubuntu, even better, considering last time i tried, ubuntu installer gave me some weird errors few times. I think EndeavourOS is actually the best for noobs because of AUR and yay. AUR is supperior to all that PPA stuff. Not to mention the great ArchWiki. All Ubuntu has is forums, not so comprehensive. Mint has even less comprehensive answers on its forum, and they’re a lot often outdated. And not all answers from the ubuntu ones are relevant for mint. Opposing to them, what’s relevant for Arch is relevant for endeavourOS. Also, it comes in nice flavours, offered during the install process. Not to mention the “welcome” utility helping you make some initial tweaks.
AUR was super confusing to me as a new user when I was running Manjaro for a few months. It still donent really make sense since it seems like it throws every advantage of a package manager out the window
As far as I’ve heard, manjaro is notorious for its AUR “support” so no wonders. For me on my EndeavourOS setup its as easy as running “yay -S *package name*” to install one or just “yay” to update everything and then everything just works.
Just started on EOS this week after running Manjaro a few years back and then running Debian derivatives for a few years. I really like it, everything has been so smooth (well, other than some minor issues with upgrading to Plasma 6 yesterday I suppose, but that’s not in EOS I suppose). I was a little bit lazy about learning the ins and outs of pacman and yay, but I immediately found pacseek, which has been a pretty nice TUI package manager
I love seeing people enjoy arch and I’m not discouraging anyone from trying it. Ubuntu kinda sucks but most people coming from windows don’t feel comfortable doing anything in the terminal. Debian drivitaives and fedora are probably a safer bet.
If it wasn’t for the CLI first approach for arch and the dangers using potentially unstable or malicious packages in the aur I’d recommend arch derivatives to everyone. It’s exceedingly rare but I have been left with broken packages a couple times in my first year of using arch. The aur isn’t vetted or controlled to the degree the official arch repositories and could leave them open to downloading malicious code if they don’t check the package first. Literally anyone can put whatever they want on the aur until someone notices.
With Debian derivatives I find the Debian wiki along with the forms of your distro a 1 2 punch that can be almost as good as archlinux wiki and communities. I do agree with you the information for issues you might have on arch is everywhere. That comes from a crowd of enthusiast and they typically, understandably expect a level of understanding and independence that you don’t find with average users (sorry average user).
Maybe Linux mint, I love archlinux as much as the next guy but jumping head first into a glass of water takes practice. Unless you revel in the challenge of jumping in the deep end just so you can learn how to swim like I do!
I’m just glad I chose arch instead of Gentoo. I got plenty of will power to learn something new but waiting hours or even days for a bunch of software to compile was too much for me.
EndeavourOS is as simply installed as Ubuntu, even better, considering last time i tried, ubuntu installer gave me some weird errors few times. I think EndeavourOS is actually the best for noobs because of AUR and yay. AUR is supperior to all that PPA stuff. Not to mention the great ArchWiki. All Ubuntu has is forums, not so comprehensive. Mint has even less comprehensive answers on its forum, and they’re a lot often outdated. And not all answers from the ubuntu ones are relevant for mint. Opposing to them, what’s relevant for Arch is relevant for endeavourOS. Also, it comes in nice flavours, offered during the install process. Not to mention the “welcome” utility helping you make some initial tweaks.
AUR was super confusing to me as a new user when I was running Manjaro for a few months. It still donent really make sense since it seems like it throws every advantage of a package manager out the window
As far as I’ve heard, manjaro is notorious for its AUR “support” so no wonders. For me on my EndeavourOS setup its as easy as running “yay -S *package name*” to install one or just “yay” to update everything and then everything just works.
Just started on EOS this week after running Manjaro a few years back and then running Debian derivatives for a few years. I really like it, everything has been so smooth (well, other than some minor issues with upgrading to Plasma 6 yesterday I suppose, but that’s not in EOS I suppose). I was a little bit lazy about learning the ins and outs of pacman and yay, but I immediately found pacseek, which has been a pretty nice TUI package manager
I love seeing people enjoy arch and I’m not discouraging anyone from trying it. Ubuntu kinda sucks but most people coming from windows don’t feel comfortable doing anything in the terminal. Debian drivitaives and fedora are probably a safer bet.
If it wasn’t for the CLI first approach for arch and the dangers using potentially unstable or malicious packages in the aur I’d recommend arch derivatives to everyone. It’s exceedingly rare but I have been left with broken packages a couple times in my first year of using arch. The aur isn’t vetted or controlled to the degree the official arch repositories and could leave them open to downloading malicious code if they don’t check the package first. Literally anyone can put whatever they want on the aur until someone notices.
With Debian derivatives I find the Debian wiki along with the forms of your distro a 1 2 punch that can be almost as good as archlinux wiki and communities. I do agree with you the information for issues you might have on arch is everywhere. That comes from a crowd of enthusiast and they typically, understandably expect a level of understanding and independence that you don’t find with average users (sorry average user).