500ml to 440ml?

Edit: the 440 on the right, is the last of a can that I bought in a four pack. The 500 on the left, is one of three I bought as singles.

Packaged Guinness comes in 440 milliliters. Single cans of Guinness come in 500 mL.

Apparently, that’s how Guinness does it here in Canada.

And apparently, I lazily avoided any attempt to research or apply any level of critical thinking before posting.

  • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    This is not shrinkflation.

    440ml is a UK variant. No one has a confirmed explanation for its existence alongside 500ml, but it’s been around for decades.

    However 440ml of water would be 0.44kg which is just under one pound imperial weight (0.45kg). Presumably the fluid plus the aluminium can would weigh about 1lb which may explain the odd volume measure (given transport costs are often by weight and possibly even how customs costs may have used to work?).

  • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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    6 months ago

    I always wonder how far companies will go with this. Do they stop at 300ml? 200ml? Are we going to see 100ml cans of Guinness?

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      6 months ago

      While I agree with the general sentiment, these are both standard sizes for Guinness and the 440ml 4 packs and 8 packs have been around for well over 20 years. Here in Canada, the 440ml are available in the multi packs while the 500ml are sold as individual cans. I’ve seen the same in the states. I think OP just saw the smaller volume can next to the slightly bigger one and jumped on the shrinkflation hate train without checking.

    • MCHEVA@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Guinness is owned by diageo a company know for having no bottom, toptier shit heads. They’d charge you full price to spit in your mouth if they could.

      Also unpopular oppionion don’t drink this mediocre beer. Support local brewery’s there is probably one with a porter on nitro (guiness is barely a stout).

      Sorry Irish people your cultural touchstone is a bit shit.

      • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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        6 months ago

        Any famous beer that is associated with a country is usually shit… Like molson canadian, fosters, or bud light

        It took me a while to realize guinness falls firmly into this category as well

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          6 months ago

          When you have built a brand reputation, you don’t have to care about actual quality.

          I think it was good beer 100 years ago.

        • pHr34kY@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          I don’t think Fosters is associated with a country. Maybe Japan or England.

          • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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            6 months ago

            it was marketed here (north america) as an australian beer… i think their slogan was “australian for beer” at some point. also parodied heavily in the simpsons episode in australia…

            never heard of any associations with japan or england

            • Faceman🇦🇺@discuss.tchncs.de
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              6 months ago

              Funilly enough Fosters is japanese now, and hasn’t been Australian for decades.

              Asahi have been buying up all of Australia’s breweries, even a bunch of popular micros are owned by them now.

              Before asahi, they were owned by ABINBEV and SABMiller.

              It was actually made in many countries by the likes of Heineken, Coors, Molson, and others. I don’t think any true fosters has been made in Australia and exported for a very long time.

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              Yeah in the US the slogan was “its Australian for beer, mate.”

              And the joke was “it’s Australian for piss, mate.”

              For just an average macro brew lager, I don’t think it’s that bad.

              I also associate Sapporo with Japan, which again is not bad for that type of beer.

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                Sapporo is my go too plain beer. It’s not that it’s a great beer, but it’s one of the few mainstream brands that doesn’t taste like mostly sugar. If you can find the imported stuff in the funky can that’s shaped like a glass it’s way better than the North American made stuff.

          • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
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            The tagline in the U.S. was “Foster’s, Australian for beer” for like 2 decades at least.

            It had an Australian flag on the can.

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          Oof that’s rough. Im not sure how excise tax works where you are but here it’s every six months it increases. Beer seems to get worse /smaller /more expensive over time.

          There was a beer I drank a lot 5 years ago from a local brewery that was a 6.5% abv ipa. They dropped the abv then dropped down to 4 packs then the price went up $5 aud. I get they are a business but it just wasn’t at a price point I could justify paying for it. There was a time where I gave up homebrewing because I could get local good beer for a good price. I’m contemplating taking it back up but it’s a lot of work.

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      6 months ago

      Do they stop at 300ml? 200ml? Are we going to see 100ml cans of Guinness?

      Speaking purely for frozen vegetables, there doesn’t seem to be a bottom. I was buying packs that were 1.2 or 1.3kg, then it went down to 1kg, then 750, now 500g… seeing a 500g package at MORE than what 1KG was selling for is hilariously infuriating. Not to mention, it uses twice the plastic to get the same amount of food.

      I curse any company that does this.

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    6 months ago

    6 pack bottles used to be 12 fl. oz. and they changed to 11.2. This was 5 or more years ago though.

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    6 months ago

    Not only in Canada. My wife just commented that she has never even seen a 500ml Guinness can, both single and multipack come in 440ml here.

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    6 months ago

    Happened here in the states about a year ago. So now the usual pint glasses look weird. But they have the new smaller 14oz ones. Dumb.