“Off”
So the question is how to completely turn off an android device?
Take out the battery.
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Even then signals are gonna leak through.
If I can find it when it’s “off”, who else can?
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Me, and I will find you
Pretty nice.
Side note though, do people here actually read the articles here? It’s pretty obvious this would be a part of FMD. iPhone has already been doing this for years
I think from some of the comments they’re concerned that it won’t be a toggleable flag, that at any point, some spooky man from Google or some 3 letter agency can enable and/or override.
At any time. Which is a very fair point?
However, swings and roundabouts from my end likes the idea of being able to recover lost/stolen hardware so I’d like to hear others voices on it.
Fun fact off doesn’t mean off on modern Android. When you plug in your device and see a battery percentage that means there is software running on the device
That’s the bootloader. It boots when power is connected. It’s limited in functionality.
Actually I don’t believe it is. That part of the system is part of the OS image. I believe its how google tracks the Pixel 8
I used to be an Android device developer back in the Lollipop days. I compiled the various images myself, including the bootloader, recovery, and the Android OS. I can say with 100% certainty that at least back in the Lollipop days, and at least on the vast, vast majority of devices (a device could theoretically change this, and I don’t know everything about every device ever released), the battery percentage that shows up when the phone is off is part of the bootloader, not Android. It’s a separate image entirely.
I’ve rooted many android phones including modern ones. Flashing the bootloader/recovery without the OS always changed the charging animation in the off state in my experience. Can’t say this is how all Androids work, but I’ve never encountered one that didn’t behave this way.
I just know that when I flash anything Linux the offline charging indicator stops working
You most likely are flashing the bootloader, recovery, and OS all in one step. They can be combined into one image and all flashed at once. I doubt the Android bootloader would be able to boot Linux, but tbh, that’s not my area of expertise, so I could be wrong.
I know how it is. Used to work on phone chipsets. That being said, I have no idea how pixel 8 is doing this, but likely the Bluetooth chipset has a mode it can go into to behave like AirTags and just pulse out a BTLE beacon occasionally with both the main OS and sub-OSes turned off and power just being trickled to VCC on the BT chip.
Edit: apologies, didn’t mean to sound so curt. Tl;dr: I know how bootloaders run to allow battery charge while off, not sure how pixel 8 is doing their magic-to-be but have a good theory.
Glad I don’t have a Pixel 8.
I’m pretty sure you would be able to opt out of this. Just like the rest of Find My Device.
Man, people in the group really hate Android. Did y’all subscribe just to complain about how it’s stealing your precious bodily fluids?
Sounds like the low energy Bluetooth controller can be powered separate of the processor and configured to occasionally drop a beacon.
I’d like to say this is horrible on an outrage but I’m walking around with half a dozen Tile beacons in my bag.
Security and convenience are opposite ends of the same line.
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Bug, not a feature.
Bullshit privateer corporate hackers.
