• stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub
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    8 months ago

    Ignoring the users in here who obviously don’t understand how critical SMS actually is and how fucking awful it is from a security standpoint because they’d rather be armchairs than actually learn anything useful or true…

    Wondering if this sudden move is at all to do with Apples announcement of their quantum encryption. US govt intel complex is probably seething rn

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      8 months ago

      If Apple cares about protecting privacy they’d use an open, interoperable, cross-platform standard instead of just making cracks like, “just buy your Mom an iPhone.”

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        8 months ago

        But android does this exact thing and has far more vulnerabilities

        Open source doesn’t magically make things more secure unfortunately, no matter how many people seem to think this

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      8 months ago

      There certainly is a history of attacking Apple over their use of encryption. I wonder if they’re still mad they didn’t get that iPhone backdoor they wanted.

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        8 months ago

        Unfounded paranoia, google on the other hand has a history of this. Not to mention the audio recording from chrome browsers.

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          8 months ago

          thats a bit naive

          apple was already collaborating in the snowden days

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              i mean they are part of the PRISM program like google, microsoft and others, as revealed by snowden back when he leaked it. they are doing some questionable mass image hash scanning in the name of “protecting the children” now too. i’m sure you can find more bullshit by simply reading their TOS.

              honestly its very safe to assume every single stock firmware, on every device is compromised unless its FOSS. this includes cars, tvs and everything in between.

              the single major advantage of android in this respect is that you can change the OS that comea with it. i think its the only real way to use phones semi privately now.

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                8 months ago

                Okay well now we’re talking about leaked government documents…

                Which comes with a whole different set of rules including mechanisms like false info. Specifically, tactics like misdirection (to sway public opinion against good-guys, perhaps like apple, while still not lying about any bad guys involved, a proverbial shit bomb which makes everyone appear guilty)

                Not sure why Apple would be so public in fighting against the cia/fbi regarding giving them a way into your phone if they were already letting them in lmao.

                What sense does that make?

                I do, however think that hardware should be open-sourced and heavily subsidized from a career standpoint for pen testers so that we can have standardized and vetted hardware which can run Apples flavor or androids, etc. This is however pretty far out from my realm of knowledge so I can’t speak to likelihood or anything like that.

                Just know we agree on your very last point

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                  8 months ago

                  i dont care what their PR department is saying, or making it look. in fact its the very last thing i care, their actions speak louder.

                  if you want to think apple devices are not spying on you because of reasons you are free to do so, im not gonna argue that.

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                    8 months ago

                    You didn’t answer my question

                    Why would apple openly fight the govt on this?

                    If we can’t trust anything you see or hear how do you plan to cope with reality? Nothings believable? Seriously? Good luck dude.