Joker was really close to being a great movie, but was ultimately too confused about what it wanted its message to be. Unless the message was just “I’m fed up, let’s get violent already”.
That’s the problem, it didn’t have a real message. It was aping Taxi Driver and King of Comedy, and it copied the aesthetics of those films very well, but it was all superficial. It’s a perfectly fine movie, but The Batman had deeper social commentary than Joker.
Joker was really close to being a great movie, but was ultimately too confused about what it wanted its message to be. Unless the message was just “I’m fed up, let’s get violent already”.
Ngl, I think that was the message. As in “this is my backstory”, end of story.
What made it good was perhaps more in how it was done.
Not every movie needs a moral of the story moment…
That’s the problem, it didn’t have a real message. It was aping Taxi Driver and King of Comedy, and it copied the aesthetics of those films very well, but it was all superficial. It’s a perfectly fine movie, but The Batman had deeper social commentary than Joker.