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    8 months ago

    Totally not controlled by the US State Department. They just HAPPEN to attack Russia and China and ignore Israel. Totally incidental.

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      8 months ago

      They hate everyone dude. Have you not heard of them before? Why would they go after Russia? Ignoring historical grievances, their biggest operating grounds is in the African nations that France has been kicked out of and the formerly Wagner elements have taken the role of security guarantor. Why would they attack the primary force fighting them? Hmm. Why would they ignore Israel? Israel knows its targeted, and has a small border to patrol. It’s hard to hit someone whose always watching.

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          Isis a US puppet? Fucking insane. The first two articles are from almost ten years ago. I’ll shit in Israel. Weren’t they funding Hamas back then too? I fully acknowledge that Israel wants this, but are you going to ask why won’t isis attack Israel’s puppet Palestinian? Is it because they are fellow Israeli puppet? The last link is reddit screenshots. I can see little else on the internet about it.

          Edit: I did find an article which was under a pay wall where isis condemned Hamas eventually. They weren’t condemning them for attacking Israel though. They were basically condemning hamas for not being isis.

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            The first two articles are from almost ten years ago.

            And that second one is quote sausage. Lots of little quotes chopped up and stuffed into a narrative casing.

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        8 months ago

        China is an odd one to attack. There’s no historical grievances and China is making a lot of positive inroads all across the Islamic World. Seems like they’d pick a different target.

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          China is more unusual, but the Islamic world is not a simple, singular thing. Religion can be hostile to near faiths. If catholics are burning protestants(or vice versa) I wouldn’t thinking making friends with one, would endear you to the other. Even if you are friends with the Taliban, Isis doesn’t really care. To them the Taliban aren’t pure enough. No one but them are. Reaching out to the rest of the Islamic world may be seen as a negative to them.

          If they are next to China, and china is not them, that may be enough for them to justify it to themselves. Religious extremists don’t tend to make perfect sense to people who see the world as it is.

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            8 months ago

            Weird how all the other extremists seem to have definite and concrete grievances whereas ISIS seems to just be randomly generated chaotic NPCs

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              All other extremists? The guy who shot up Christchurch? Was his grievance legitimate? The guys who burn synagogues? When the kkk bombed a church killing 3 children? I don’t think they were from my view. They aren’t chaotic, but their rational is not based on things outside of religion. I don’t see that as npc things. They are human, and humans do not all see things the same. I’m not the one putting my views on them. They say they feel a way, and I believe them. For some reason you can’t. It must be the cia, or America. I’ll give you one thing. The circumstances that created them were certainly the fault of the US intentional or not.

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                Did I say anything about legitimacy? No! I said definite and concrete. Even if their beliefs are bullshit they still believe in something!

                Their religion isn’t “kill everyone” so who they target is selective. This honestly comes across as Islamophobia - ‘they’re just monsters, who knows what they motivated by!’

                Why did they select China?

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                    8 months ago

                    Maybe, but it strikes me as strange that they hate all other sects and national groups except the Uyghurs. Also, they’d be the only group that actually does care outside the West. Very strange.

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                    Not really maybe. In the article they say it, but neofacist cartoon character pic over here you are replying to probably didn’t read it. They say it’s for the Uyghurs and the support of the Taliban. They don’t like the taliban because they are their local authority.

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      8 months ago

      Ah yes, the people who have explicitly called the US their enemies are actually TOTALLY SECRET agents lolol jeez, talk about a baseless claim! Looks like we found our Russian/Chinese/Iranian troll in the comments doing their best to spin this as: USA bad, must be USA’s fault, west=evil.

      Lmao you’ll have to try harder than that, friend.