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    6 months ago

    Nobody is forcing me to use Office or Teams, but I’m stuck with a single ISP.

    Why won’t regulators even LOOK at the ISP oligopoly? For fucks sake.

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      6 months ago

      Turn it into a utility. Having an Internet connection is arguably more important than a phone line ever was and is up there with electricity.

      It’s a utility. Treat it like one.

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        6 months ago

        I only have one option for most utilities. I don’t get to choose which private power company I use and I certainly don’t get to choose from an array of options for how that electricity is generated.

        Making the internet a utility is good, but that won’t make it less of an oligopoly.

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          Here in NL they have a decent system if you ask me. Infrastructure for power is owned by TenneT, a semi-government organisation. Then power is supplied by private companies, from whom you can choose any one you want (aka the cheapest/greenest one, depending on your wishes). They then supply power to the national grid, so you’re technically using power from all companies, but paying your share to the one you have a contract with.

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          6 months ago

          My only power option announced they are raising rates every year for the next few years. Yay for capitalism I guess.

    • BallsandBayonets@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Because you probably do have at least two options for ISPs, it’s just that one option is DSL and lawmakers still struggle with understanding color television.

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        6 months ago

        Yes you can get dial-up, DSL, cell network data, or even satellite! These services are clearly equivalent to cable or fiber in the ISP marketplace.

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        6 months ago

        My ISP overlords added fiber to my neighborhood and have stopped allowing DSL signups. Well they also didn’t replace the copper in my yard (fiber is only available across the street and I’ve spent 3 years trying to get AT&T to come across to my side). So my options are cable, or cable, or T-Mobile hotspot (it would be against their TOS though).

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      6 months ago

      Because the unbundling is happening due to EU intervention and the ISP oligopoly is in the US, and not within the jurisdiction of the EU.

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    6 months ago

    The company says Office 365 suites with Teams will no longer be sold to new business subscribers, but will continue to be available for existing customers that opt to continue using the bundled products, even upon renewal.

    So if your company already has 365 that includes teams, as long as it renews 365 there’s no additional/separate cost for Teams?

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      Yeah they’ve rolled it out to everyone, got a defacto monopoly and now they’re increasing the rates for new customers.

      This is just capitalism 101 while pretending it’s for the regulators.

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        6 months ago

        Perhaps, but my concern is investing time and energy helping customers learn a system and that system becoming financially unsustainable. I welcome change, but my customers don’t. Hearing that it’s only for new customers is a relief.

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      This is a big deal for me. I’ve got a MS account for Azure but I use Google suite for email etc. I can’t sign into teams at all with the account that matches my email address because it’s not a 365 account. I end up looking very unprofessional struggling to log into a Teams meeting hosted by a prospective client.

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        Do not worry, everyone that uses Teams on a daily basis knows the most professional action is to defenestrate the machine running it.

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          Just to the extent that I’ll be able to log in to Teams with my account the same way others can log into Zoom. Because I’m usually already logged into my Microsoft account in my browser I generally have problems.

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    Seems weird to be honest. I would agree on removing personal Teams from new Windows installations, but if you are locked in Microsoft 365 environment it is very unlikely you will not use Teams due to how well it integrates with whole ecosystem.

    It’s almost as asking to unbundle Outlook because Thunderbird exists.

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      It doesn’t really integrate that well, but it’s included with most enterprise licenses so what company is going to pay for another option when they get it for “free”.

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        It integrates very well, and gets better over time. You don’t need Outlook Calendar anymore, the OneDrive portion makes more sense than the actual website it’s pulling from, and the new Planner app is actually decent compared to the old one that was buggy af inside of Teams.

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      6 months ago

      Maybe a solution like on Android where users are given a choice of a few app on first setup?

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        6 months ago

        Would be nice for new OS install, including default browser choice and maybe even cloud storage.

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        6 months ago

        What other client choices are out there that let you directly access SharePoint files or Microsoft Planner directly in a team chat?