The French National Assembly on Thursday unanimously adopted a bill aimed at restricting the manufacture and sale of products containing per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances — also known as PFAS or “forever chemicals.” The MPs, backed by the government, voted to exclude kitchen utensils from the scope of the text.

Thanks to an intense lobbying push, manufacturers of frying pans and saucepans — including the SEB group, which owns Tefal — are exempt from this ban under the proposed law penned by French Green MPs.

Majority groups initially tried to delay the ban on kitchen utensils until 2030 — a timetable refused by the French Green MPs who instead suggested an exemption until 2026.

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      8 months ago

      So?

      We’re not talking excretion, we’re talking blood half-life.

      Too complex a distinction for a corporate shill?

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        8 months ago

        Hey, it’s me, your friendly neighbourhood corporate shill, telling you to not buy any more nonstick cookware because I love Tefal so much. More for me!

        But seriously, I’m not disputing that the chemicals you listed are bad, just that the coating itself doesn’t affect you.

        PFAS bad, but only there during production. PTFE fine, and that’s what’s on your pan. PTFE does not get into your blood. Any PTFE you consume comes back out, because it is not PFAS.

        TL;DR: use pan until pan bad, then buy pan with no PTFE.

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          Do you understand the difference between excretion and half-life?

          Do you understand that anything that has a half-life of SEVERAL YEARS in the blood and is fairly novel and hasn’t been studied for long term effects of exposure on humans, should be something which you avoid having in your blood?

          It’s like when tobacco companies put asbestos in cigarettes to “filter” them.

          https://www.asbestos.com/products/cigarette-filters/

          But yeah, tldr I can agree with

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                Wait up, I just checked and you’re technically right - PTFE is definitely a PFAS. Dunno if it’s dangerous or frequently breaks down into dangerous PFAS, but FWIW I’ve long suspected that nonstick pans can’t be good for you. I’ve never seen a nonstick pan that doesn’t have a single scratch in anyone’s kitchen before.

                You could probably stand to improve the clarity of your arguments though haha

                People like you fucking disgust me. Either you’re willfully ignorant or maliciously so. Both are equally pathetic.

                Not gonna get very far talking to people like that. Lucky for you I empathize with your intentions,