I was just getting interested in Neeva as a paid search engine with some cool AI tools where you’re not an advertising target because you pay. This explains the sudden refund from Neeva - they apparently got bought out and are no longer being a search engine. I don’t really know what to make of it all.

I suppose it makes my decision between it and Kagi easier - I don’t really have a choice. Kagi is a lot more expensive, but I get work to pay for it. Though that does make it harder to potentially recommend to other people I know.

Not that I ever thought paid search would massively take off, but unlike many tasks, search can be centralized enough on a per user basis that something other than ads is worth exploring.

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    I am using Brave Search, and have done so for a good while. I actually found the results better on Brave Search than on Neeva. My only concern is the shady past of Brave.

    Neeva will be missed. I’m sad that it’s gone.

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      Brave’s CEO opposes same-sex marriage in the US and donated money to anti-LGBT groups. It’s why he was ousted at Mozilla. As a result I cannot in good conscience use anything from Brave.

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        Ditto. Brave also promotes their own crypto-coin ponzi nonsense. And at one point I believe they made a far-right website a default link on their homepage, before outcry compelled them to remove it.

        Duckduckgo search engine works as well as google’s, though. Except that I haven’t yet figured out what the equivalent formatting for “site:reddit.com” is for it, if site specific search is even a supported function (surely?)

        Edit: I won’t scold anyone for using a free browser though. It’s not like you give them $$$. But they do get your data, and while they claim to be about privacy I don’t exactly trust them as far as I can throw them.

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          Brave also promotes their own crypto-coin ponzi nonsense.

          This kinda pained me as well as its a centralized coin that requires you to verify with a passport to even get access to the earned rewards. Literally the opposite of having a private browser. Still happy with it as browser for mobile though, others dont really compare (Firefox had a bunch of bad design decisions I didnt like).

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            This and the CEO’s shenanigans made me move to startpage, although I’ve heard that it isn’t great for privacy either.

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        Ouch. I did not know that. I was considering paying for it in order to support them. Now, maybe not

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        Didn’t know this, thanks for the heads up. Though I stick to duckduckgo regardless, I know not to recommend brave.

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      Does Brave have webmaster tools nowadays? It’s one the things that so little new search engines do, it’s annoying.