Program in assembly, 40 columns is plenty. You just need an awful lot of rows.
Same monitor, just rotate it.
If you don’t use a vertical monitor I don’t consider you a real programmer.
Joke’s on you: I don’t consider myself a real programmer either
We need the same monitor, vertically!
Just think of that hurt my neck. Imagine have to constantly look upward.
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Clever, at that point, I guess there better be a coding mode in a VR headset that I can have as many desktop/monitor as I want.
One problem solved. Three problems created. SOP.
As someone that first learned to program in 8008 machine code, you aren’t really wrong, but formatting is and always will be for the weak.
I have a monitor that’s almost like this and it’s surprisingly nice. It feels like a two-monitor setup. Two actual monitors would probably have been cheaper, but I got mine from work, so it wasn’t a factor.
The real advantage of having two actual monitors is being able to flip one vertically for reading code.
EDIT: a word
Everyone at my work who has this runs into issues whenever they need to share their screens, apologizing for low resolution or painstakingly resizing every window to mimic multiple screens anyway.
I just share one window at a time. I put the meeting on one half and the window I want to share on the other, which makes it 16:9 and works perfectly for what I need to share.
Yeah people do that, until you’re sharing a code window and then need to see if it works on a browser and then your dev tools are popped out so you have three windows…or you don’t want to just have one meeting and one window visible, you also want slack or a window for googling or something similar…
It’s all workaround-able, it’s just minor annoyance after minor annoyance lol.
So new technology will require new solutions to operate more effectively? Just another turn of the wheel.
Yeah, the benefit of the new technology doesn’t outweigh the slew of minor annoyances associated with making it work in a world designed for regular sized monitors.
If just sharing one window isn’t feasible for these reasons, my go-to is to use OBS.
I bought one after some months of remote work in 2020. Then when I started my new job they gave me another one (different manufacturer but exact same panel size). I needed to rearrange my desk a lot, but holy shit so much room for error messages!
Yes, I’m a Java developer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jfc. Do people really write code like this? I’ve been writing code in Java for 15+ years and have never seen anything like this.
You need more skill, not a wider monitor. SMH.
Hello world in Java:
class 9-A { public static endangered therefore protected final void main(String[] args) { System.prepareTheOutputBufferForPrintingAsTheNextStatementWillDoSo(args); System.in.out.in.out.shake.it.all.around("Java is a programming language " + "invented by the intelligent monkeys " + "working at Sun Microsystems."); return void; // duh! } }ROFL you’ve proved my point. Just because Java gives you an opportunity to hang yourself doesn’t mean you should or have to.
You took one line of code and turned it into a novel. Bad programmers do this and then ignorant folks blame it on the language when it’s really just a lack of knowledge/skill.
You must be fun at parties! Seriously, this is a meme sub and the wildly exaggerated helloworld example I pasted (from this hilarious article) is obviously satire. I agree, that
- There are way worse programming languages than Java
- The verbosity is not the biggest problem of java, it is rather the dogmatic OOP paradigm that sucks.
I get making fun of java’s verbosity for things like checked exceptions but hello world really isn’t that much worse than most other languages especially considering all the “boilerplate” is required for any program more complicated than hello world in pretty much every language. But if a useless program really is too verbose for you see java 21.
void main() { System.out.println("hello world"); }
Yeah, you never see this in enterprise settings. Sure builders or streams can get a bit long but you just pop each .x() on a new line.
And when they’re on new lines intellij has a cool feature where it creates a little UI only comment next to the line showing what type it returns.
In an enterprise setting we’d definitely create a method in that object what would have that chain in it, and call that instead… It seems like it’s used over, and over again.
Anyhow, we’re sitting here trying to make sense of something that obviously some sort of joke haha.
Man we’re such fucking nerds.
Somewhere someone probably does… But this piece of code really look like someone either tried to inline a bunch of calls or this is code generated object mapper from json or other nested model.
Nobody with a sane mind and serious attitude will use this code as a “real” code. (I still believe in people, despite all the evidence to the contrary I get every day)
As a fun bit though this taken some dedication.
Is this a good thing I’m looking at or a bad thing? I don’t get it but then again, I’m not a programmer.
The joke is Java is verbose. It takes many characters to accomplish simple routines. Depending on your view that could either be good or bad for reading the code later.
Sure, but most of the lines in the screenshot break down to:
object1.setA(object2.getX().getY().getZ().getI().getJ().getK().getE().getF(i).getG().toString())Aside from creating a method inside the class (which you should probably do here in Java too) how would another language do this in a cleaner way?
Kotlin would represent the getter/setters as synthetic properties (and do so automatically, since Kotlin interops with Java).
object1.A = object2.X.Y.Z.I.J.K.E.getF(i).G.toString()Of course it’s still not great (there’s still too much nesting, there’s something fundamentally wrong with how the data is structured) but at least the code is less noisy.
Well I guess the point is that you shouldn’t need all these method calls to achieve simple goals. Most of those “getF” are calls to some SystemFactory to get a GenericObjectFactory and so on and so forth.
This just tells me you don’t use Java. Factory classes are just used to create objects in a standardized way, but this code isn’t creating anything, it’s just getting nested fields from already instantiated objects.
Got it! Thanks for the explanation!
Had an ultra wide for a while, went back to 2 27" monitors after 2 years. 2 monitors is more convenient imo. I can flip one vertical whenever. Less fiddly to have multiple things open at once. One is centered while the other is on the side and angled, much nicer way of separating what’s my focus. Easier to screen share. I always found the curve distracting for text.
The ultra-wide’s big appeal is definitely more for gaming than programming.
You might have just saved me a heap of money.
Screen sharing would suck with an ultra wide.
It does, but it depends on the tool. Zoom lets you simply draw a rectangle which will be shared, I typically select 2/3 of my screen. It’s great when all have the same screen though.
I use a Ultrawide as my main monitor, a 1440p vertical one on the right and 2 portable 15" 1080p under the Ultrawide.
When I need to share, I share one of the 15". I keep my notes and the call on my Ultrawide. I think it’s a great setup.
But if you don’t want as many monitors, for sure 2x 16:9 is much better than 1x 21:9 or even 1x 32:9.
I set up my wife with a single 39" ultra wide instead of two separate monitors and it lets you use two cables so each half of the display acts as it’s own unit. Then it’s like having two monitors without a seam in the middle and doesn’t take over the whole desk. I use two 43" 4k monitors side by side in the same way as you though and definitely prefer that.
You’re dangerously close to the edge there bud, what’s your plan B when that starts to overflow huh?
Buy a second monitor with the same space
Type aliasing in java could have saved us from the current pixel shortage, but at least kotlin is giving us a cheaper path forward.
that’s some serious chaining lol
LOL, that said. The BEST thing I ever bought when WFH started was a 4k monitor.
The extra screen real estate is amazing
…and that, kids, is why java has this thing called imports
Imports wouldn’t help. It’s setters with a ton of chained getters
Mostly they’re all the same up to the last one or two methods - just set the common part as a variable?
Definitely. I’m pretty sure they modified the code to look as bad as possible just to take the photo though. You can clearly see all the lines are marked as modified in the gutter.
It’s also a good way to potentially multiply your query costs and slow down the function, while introducing possible inconsistencies if the objects are modified between the first and last time they are requested.
This is the best answer… Or the outer classes being delegated access to the inner ones and so on, like an onion.
I wonder if this is one of the situations that Kotlin delegated parameters were designed to handle? (I’m new to Kotlin and still don’t understand that “by” construct there)
Oh come on, first time I actually want someone to post a link for an “ad” and not one in sight
I’m using this one, highly recommend it! 240hz refresh rate, HDR, perfect for coding and gaming. Don’t know if it’s the exact same as the one in OP’s pic, but same concept for sure.
https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/49–odyssey-g95na-gaming-dqhd-led-monitor-ls49ag952nnxza/I’ve bought one and sent it back again. I felt like I’m not utilizing most of the space since I had to move my head too much to see windows on either side.
I’m now using two 4k Screens. In in the middle and one to the side, but rotates by 90 degrees. Can recommend that. Though for gaming… I can imagine it there.
Personal preference I guess.
Oh yeah, it was brutal to play Apex on initially, but eventually you relearn where your eye needs to dart to to see your health and stuff and it gets a lot easier.
Then you learn how to process all that peripheral information and nobody can sneak up on you ever again lol.
For java programmers afraid of explicitly allocating any varables
AbstractInitiatorFactoryDelegateVisitorFactory
What Dart looks like when written by ActionScript programmers
I used it with the default formater built in lsp, and it used so much space…
Yeah, better use the linter too, that way it’s limited to 80 characters
Will nobody comment on the level of indentation? It looks like 10 leves deep.
