President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has emphasised that the speed of war ending directly depends on Ukraine?s support by the international community.

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    Meawnhile Ben “please thank me” Wallace is worried about Putin losing the war.

    “If Putin loses in Ukraine, he will be deeply wounded,” Wallace said. “He’s still got an air force and he’s still got a navy — and we see his navy do quite aggressive manoeuvres. Putin is not done with us yet. There is an ability for him, in the next three or four years, to lash out.”

    “If Putin loses in Ukraine”, “If” not “when”.
    “If” as if there’s a choice, as if they dont know that Ukraine will only survive if he loses. That “if” ays they’renot prepared for the “When”.

    When UK’s Secretary of State for Defence publicly says “If Putin loses in Ukraine”, you know that Western Europe fears Putin and would appease him if not for the pesky Ukrainians who just won’t stop fighting him. They fear him so much they try to bully someone who doesn’t, because Ukraine depends on them for arms.

    This fear is why ukraine is denied NATO access & protection. Because NATO appeases & protects Putin. No lessons were learnt at all from WW2.

    source : https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3736330-wallace-says-putin-may-lash-out-in-next-three-or-four-years.html

    Archive link to main article in the times : https://archive.ph/CviEG

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      When UK’s Secretary of State for Defence publicly says “If Putin loses in Ukraine”

      The guy who is stepping down due to backlash over his ridiculous statements of late? Quite the opposite is the reality here. The only thing NATO is concerned about at this point is the Nukes. Every other concern is like a Parent being concerned their toddler might throw a tantrum. Changes nothing. The child gets punished for its bad behaviour regardless.

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        Politicians are the talking heads here. Our military leadership, in at least the oldest of the NATO states, know exactly what they’re doing. The military, in the US at least, doesn’t talk to the public except through the president, or very few, select press hearings with very high-level brass, and what they say is almost always directed at the international opposition (China and Russia) and as such never reflects the true strategy. I fully believe that NATO is maneuvering to destabilize Russia, and that their goal is regime change.

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          I fully believe that NATO is maneuvering to destabilize Russia

          NATO is acting after loads of Russian aggression. Above sounds too much like the Russian talking point that Russia somehow is a victim and was somehow forced to annex the various regions over the last 20 years or so.

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              While the WW2 comparisons are of course not perfect they’re still certainly interesting to make. Appeasement seems to have had very similar results. Both Germany and Japan also miscalculated when they thought the western powers would be willing to just sue for peace at certain points (Germany thought Britain would give up the fight and go for peace talks once France fell and Japan thought USA would if taking their occupied areas back would be costly enough).

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    The free world could and should have supplied Ukraine with long range missiles and jets a year ago.

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      The war would not have dragged on for so long had the skies been closed at the start of Russia’s invasion.

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        Yeah. It’s disappointing countries just sat by and watched at that point. That’s what we all did when Hitler invaded Poland. In hindsight, wouldn’t it have been an incredibly wise move to immediately fight back at that point?

        People acted like Russia was somehow allowed to fly in Ukrainian airspace but nobody else could. In reality, planes defending Ukraine would have been the only ones with permission to be there. It’s shameful really.

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          Ehhhh… France and Britain declared war on Germany in response to Poland’s invasion. That’s a far more direct response to the Poland issue than everyone has done for Ukraine in comparison.

          I think the example you’re looking for is when France/Britain did nothing to stop Nazi Germany’s illegal annexation of Czechoslovakia or Austria.

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      Ending the war quickly is not the plan. Sapping Russian reserves of manpower and equipment is, and that’s accomplished by trying to keep Ukrainian forces alive but not winning.

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        Yes. It’s becoming obvious that NATO is using Ukraine to weaken Russia and Putin,then denyiing Ukraine the benefits of a NATO membership and it is what Zelenskyy protested.

        NATO is destroying all the goodwill it has earned,